Focus and Caster Itemization
- Thread starter Silosobi
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Can you explain that please?
One point of channeling will give me about half percent increase in my casting damage, wheras 5 points of evocation will give me one percent increase in casting damage.
Are you just saying you would like to allocate channeling in "smaller lumps" on more equipment?
There are 5 points of evocation on Cloak of Corrupt Nature, which is about twice as powerful (for me) as the one point of channeling on CoD back.
Thanks.
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Tarutao
Staff Emeritus
That pretty much covers it.
jew_nose_it
Dalayan Master
Bridger, look at it this way...
5 points of channeling is 2.5% DPS increase. Now compare that to 5 points of Evocation.
Of course channeling is doled out in much smaller increments to counteract this, but you can see where I'm going hopefully (probably not though because...well yeah...it's you).
5 points of channeling is 2.5% DPS increase. Now compare that to 5 points of Evocation.
Of course channeling is doled out in much smaller increments to counteract this, but you can see where I'm going hopefully (probably not though because...well yeah...it's you).
cod "back" is a shoulder item so wearing both is better than either or
jew_nose_it
Dalayan Master
Yeah but CoD Shoulders look like a cape, can't wear two capes at the same time bro.
Silosobi
Dalayan Pious Diety
Ummm IDK how you all are failing at math so hard. Especially Tao.
1 channeling = 1% dps boost on offensive spells. For mages w/o Empowered Storm its a bit less, with Empowered Storm 4, it is actually over 1% because of how rain crits work. For DD/Dots it is a straight 1% increase in overall damage.
Wizards are a special case because of our Ultimate/Primal Blasts. If I remember it right, we gain 1.67% overall damage increase per point of channeling, which makes it as good as ~8 evocation, which is pretty fucking huge, especially when you consider evo can be capped, whereas one will never cap their channeling.
It would be ideal if it could be dropped to like .2% per point, and then spread more liberally across gear, but that may not be possible.
This is kind of off topic, but it fits in with the whole casters being "stuck" with certain item choices / gear setups because effects like channeling and focuses are basically more powerful than any amount of hp/ac/etc. When I compare channeling to elemental damage, an item would need 100-130 cold damage to be equivalent to a single point of channeling (for a wizard).
With that said, channeling is actually less of an issue than focuses, I can see myself dropping items with channeling for other effects + superior stats, whereas focus effects are essentially "required" Certain classes can skip some focuses, but the ones you need, you absolutely need.
I still think the aug thing could be viable, if it was made ultra ultra rare. I'm not talking about an easy way to fill in all focus problems, but rather something a raid guild would see drop maybe 1 time per month of consistent raiding. Then its not just a free easy upgrade, you'd really want to think carefully about what core raiders *need* a certain focus that your guild just cant seem to find.
1 channeling = 1% dps boost on offensive spells. For mages w/o Empowered Storm its a bit less, with Empowered Storm 4, it is actually over 1% because of how rain crits work. For DD/Dots it is a straight 1% increase in overall damage.
Wizards are a special case because of our Ultimate/Primal Blasts. If I remember it right, we gain 1.67% overall damage increase per point of channeling, which makes it as good as ~8 evocation, which is pretty fucking huge, especially when you consider evo can be capped, whereas one will never cap their channeling.
It would be ideal if it could be dropped to like .2% per point, and then spread more liberally across gear, but that may not be possible.
This is kind of off topic, but it fits in with the whole casters being "stuck" with certain item choices / gear setups because effects like channeling and focuses are basically more powerful than any amount of hp/ac/etc. When I compare channeling to elemental damage, an item would need 100-130 cold damage to be equivalent to a single point of channeling (for a wizard).
With that said, channeling is actually less of an issue than focuses, I can see myself dropping items with channeling for other effects + superior stats, whereas focus effects are essentially "required" Certain classes can skip some focuses, but the ones you need, you absolutely need.
I still think the aug thing could be viable, if it was made ultra ultra rare. I'm not talking about an easy way to fill in all focus problems, but rather something a raid guild would see drop maybe 1 time per month of consistent raiding. Then its not just a free easy upgrade, you'd really want to think carefully about what core raiders *need* a certain focus that your guild just cant seem to find.
Animand
Dalayan Elder
You went into detail Tao knows, understands, and can explain. However, this does absoutely nothing to explain things to a recalcitrant mage. You know he doesn't care about anything that doesn't apply directly to him or his worldview.
Anyways, that's why it appears Tao was failing at math.
jew_nose_it
Dalayan Master
re·cal·ci·trant
/riˈkalsətrənt/
Adjective
Having an obstinately uncooperative attitude toward authority
ob·sti·nate
/ˈäbstənit/
Adjective
Stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion or action, despite attempts to persuade one to do so.
Seems like a good word to describe bridger....
/riˈkalsətrənt/
Adjective
Having an obstinately uncooperative attitude toward authority
ob·sti·nate
/ˈäbstənit/
Adjective
Stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion or action, despite attempts to persuade one to do so.
Seems like a good word to describe bridger....