Flight of the Eagles

Cinn

Cinn

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overwrites the spell Acumen.

I don't know why it does this but it is annoying.

I know this is really low priority but I doubt this is working as intended unless FoE has some spell mechanics that I'm not aware of.

just thought I'd mention it here so others will be aware (and stop casting it when we're buffing for groups), or some wonderful dev might find the time to take a look.

stop casting FoE on me, jerks.
 
ok I have used my massive brain power to open a parser and by open a parser I really just complained to thade and he parsed it to tell me why and APPARENTLY

Slot 1: See Invisible
Slot 2: Increase Movement by 60%
Slot 3: Levitate
Slot 4: Infravision

these are the problems can we just agree as a server that FoE doesnt need these effects and remove them I mean come on you get these effects from like a bunch of other spells that you already cast on yourself and by a bunch of other spells I really just mean EoTW and EoT and Acumen and probably other stuff who knows.

I HATE BIRDS
 
look I really just dont want a buff that gets instantly dispelled when you zone indoors and has no stamina regen to overwrite a buff that gives stamina regen (or drain reduction or whatever the eff these wacky stamina buffs do) and is actually useful I dont care how this happens birds are jerks so are druids or other bird sympathizers.

death to all birds or bird related buffs.
 
Tbh, for a druid the FoE spell really doesnt need those effects indeed. Since most of them would constantly have "Mask of the Hunter" on anyway, which does:

Effects (from parser):

Slot 3: Increase Current Mana by 4 per tick
Slot 4: See Invisible
Slot 7: Ultravision

Or even the lv 65 Refuge self-only wolf form, which also has the See Invisble/Ultravision effects! I guess other classes dont really need to rely on FoE for these effects, since an Acumen can get it to them... and they wont lose that when going indoors!
 
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the clear answer is to give foe stamina regen and work indoors.


it's really annoying and lame to finish buffing yourself/group to have a druid cast FoE on you because lol they cant handle running with sow or billy, just gotta get inside quicker... argh
 
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Here's the real question you guys are missing.

Why is there a stacking problem due to See Invisible and Infravision? I see no reason why allowing multiple instances of either of these could be a bad thing.
 
Acumen
Slot 1: See Invisible
Slot 2: Ultravision
Slot 3: Increase Stamina Regeneration by 5

Flight of the Eagles
Slot 1: See Invisible
Slot 2: Increase Movement by 60%
Slot 3: Levitate
Slot 4: Infravision

See Invisible is what is keeping them from stacking because it is in slot 1 on both. It makes sense for it to be in slot 1 for acumen. There may be a good reason for it to be in slot 1 for flight of the eagles, but i am not familiar with it.
 
Cinn said:
these are the problems can we just agree as a server that FoE doesnt need these effects and remove them
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In xp groups I do have people ask for FoE specifically due to the vision bonuses from time to time. Personally, I don't care for the floaty floatyness, so I normally only SoE whoever asks for it specifically, and use Pack Spirit (group SoW) for any group run speed needs.

Cinn said:
I mean come on
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I mean, come on
 
Draeos said:
Can't you just remove Ultra/See invis from FoE and put true sight on instead?
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what? perhaps you should look up what Truesight is....

http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Truesight

They need to change

Acumen
Slot 1: See Invisible
Slot 2: Ultravision
Slot 3: Increase Stamina Regeneration by 5

Flight of the Eagles
Slot 1: See Invisible
Slot 2: Increase Movement by 60%
Slot 3: Levitate
Slot 4: Infravision

Into something like this...

Acumen
Slot 1: See Invisible
Slot 2: Ultravision
Slot 3: Increase Stamina Regeneration by 5

Flight of the Eagles
Slot 1: Increase Movement by 60%
Slot 2: See Invisible
Slot 3: Levitate
Slot 4: Infravision

for the 2 buffs to stack. This is what Rari has already said however.

Is there a limit to "slots" on buffs?

Can they just do something like...

Flight of the Eagles
Slot 1: Increase STA by 5
Slot 2: Decrease STA by 5
Slot 3: Increase Movement by 60%
Slot 4: See Invisible
Slot 5: Levitate
Slot 6: Infravision

on buffs that are having stacking problems?

Acumen and Flight of the Eagles // Mage and Druid DS seem to be the biggest of these problems. I also hate the fact that Swift like the Wind will overwrite Emp.
 
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Kedrin said:
Flight of the Eagles
Slot 1: Increase STA by 5
Slot 2: Decrease STA by 5
Slot 3: Increase Movement by 60%
Slot 4: See Invisible
Slot 5: Levitate
Slot 6: Infravision
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You don't have to fill all of the slots, so you could just do...

Flight of the Eagles
Slot 3: Increase Movement by 60%
Slot 4: See Invisible
Slot 5: Levitate
Slot 6: Infravision

Moving them around that much makes it more likely you'll create unwanted stacking elsewhere though, which is why I suggested the simpler change. It just comes down to moving the See Invis out of the same slot as Acumen. Either way, before a change like this was made I would hope a more indepth check for stacking than my "oh this looks good" would be done. ;P
 
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