Fix the Adepts Please

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Aytowun

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What's broken? The respawn rates!

They are horrible, how can you expect people to enjoy or plan around fighting a mob that respawns every 56 hours.
Plus melee engage is 3 lvls and caster range is 2 lvls.

Personally this affects me because I am 1 of the 2 active clerics in my guild. I find myself constantly holding off on leveling (sandjaw/treant...tarx/redmaw...3icefeathers...and then snowskin). I always end up PL-ing my alts because I am waiting for an adept to respawn.
You can see how active my guild does adepts on www.silent-redemption.com

I believe 6-18 hour respawn would fix this problem.
I can't see an argument against this.... other than 2 many people would have certain items...but random thrown-together raids ( unorganized...no cler/enc/sham/war etc.) are less liekely kill the adept.. and i doubt this ruin the item marketplace.

Lemme end this post by saying I love shards of dalaya more than i ever loved live everquest, and that Wiz should be hired to as SOE's new C.E.O.

P.s. remove all/all from redmaw hood so greedy mages won't roll for it.
 
I don't feel that the respawn times are too long. I myself have also stopped leveling so I can assist my guild members in killing Redmaw, Tarx, etc. We've had no problems killing them or finding them up. Again it's a choice on whether or not you want to wait to level so you can kill adepts or not. If my guild does not have enough people online to kill Redmaw or any other adept for that matter, we invite other guilds/random people to join in on the fun. As far as your Redmaw Helm issue, I don't see why it is all/all either, but the helm is more designed for the hybrid classes like Ranger/Paladin, with other melee or healer classes finding it partially beneficial. As a mage myself I would never consider rolling on the item, but again depending on the raid and what's agreed upon, if everyone is given a chance to roll on the item, so be it. That's a raid/group issue at the time of kill.
 
I don't have much experience with adepts, but i think the idea is great for the lower level adepts.
The items they drop aren't game altering. My take on the matter is that the lower level could be quick respawns (6-24hrs), but the higher ones Traekoth? (sp) should be leftt as is - they drop loot that is decent, even for those at 65.
 
What a horrible post! I think that even if you had valid points (which you don't) no one would care to listen because you address the issue like a fool. :(

Alton said:
My take on the matter is that the lower level could be quick respawns (6-24hrs), but the higher ones Traekoth? (sp) should be leftt as is - they drop loot that is decent, even for those at 65.
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Adept style loot is typically designed with the idea that the items will last a player much longer than armor that drops from random zones. Just as Traekoth, a level 57 adept, has items that are good even for those at 65, the lower level adepts drop items that are good for those 5 or more levels higher as well.

Aytowun said:
What's broken? The respawn rates!

They are horrible, how can you expect people to enjoy or plan around fighting a mob that respawns every 56 hours.
Plus melee engage is 3 lvls and caster range is 2 lvls.
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As I am sure you are very aware, the respawn rates are not broken, and I don't think that it is likely that the respawn rates will be lessoned simply because one person is sick of leveling their alts waiting for the adepts to pop.
 
My druid still wears the windhag pants at level 64! But I am also gimp so. The point is Adept loot rocks and shouldn't just be available to everyone.
 
Adepts are fine the way they are, reason why they are in such long timer it is because Wiz stated that he implemented new adepts(when they had a short timer we only had like 8 adepts total, now we got lots), thus there is more adepts to kill and people wont be just camping them, althou it has not stopped them. If you are a main and you see something that drops from an adept I suggest you form a raid for it and try for it. That dosent mean to go shouting in /ooc that so and so is up, man I hate people that do that, form a freaking raid. And if you dont get it lvl up and start doing the big raid targets, yes adepts are fun and rewarding but they are also ment to be rare and their loot is like one of a kind, If you dont have the patience for it then move on.
 
rofl. Guess the gm's dont agree. However, everyone in my guild does.

Jayelle, im far from the only person who feels this way, and of course the "problem" i refer to... it is obviously not the code but in the concept, FOOL
I play everyday and I am a platinum donator. So go be rude to someone else and design some manners.
 
Your suggestion would essentially lead to the complete end of Adept raids as everyone would get everything they wanted from them within a month or two.
 
Thats certainly a valid point of view Wiz. I believe you do have a reason for designing the long respawn rates.

However, I personally don't agree. Most Adepts take 12-18 people and the adepts drop ABOUT 2 loots each time.
That would take many raids to farm out the desired items, and I can't foresee a major negative impact that would have.

YES I agree with Zodiums statement "Level up and move on to other adepts and real raid targets, maybe?"
But I prefer to kill adepts more than once & most likely...a reason adepts exist is to give us lowbees raid targets.

One of my favorite things about SOD is the adepts.
I feel the long respawn rates rob me of enjoyment.

Also Wiz and Jayelle's husband...I'm sorry I called Jayelle a fool but she called me it 1st ;)
Nobody will come here to post their opinion if that is how they are treated for stating an opinion.
 
Aytowun said:
a reason adepts exist is to give us lowbees raid targets.
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To give you some variety WHILE you are leveling, not as a reason not to level. There will always be raid mobs to challenge you (unless you're Legacy :p).

As far as impact, these adepts drop items that you should not have access to at all at the level you can participate. There are rare drops from named mobs that drop less frequency than the respawn on the adepts. Be happy we have Adepts at all.

Aytowun said:
Also Wiz and Jayelle's husband...I'm sorry I called Jayelle a fool but she called me it 1st ;)
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No, she did not call you a fool. She said "you address the issue like a fool", which you absolutely did. You didn't give any valid reason why spawns should be shorter. "My guild wants to do more" and "I'm tired of PL my alts" (paraphrased of course) are not valid reasons. It's full of inaccuracies such as:

Aytowun said:
Plus melee engage is 3 lvls and caster range is 2 lvls.
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(lower levels can easily participate and contribute) as well as emotional jibberish:

Aytowun said:
They are horrible, how can you expect people to enjoy or plan around fighting a mob that respawns every 56 hours.
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Jayelle is one of the most helpful people on the forums here, as well as in game. If you read some of the other posts around, you'll see that, and you'll also notice a difference between the good, well thought out and written suggestions and the crap like this.
 
Aytowun said:
Also Wiz and Jayelle's husband...I'm sorry I called Jayelle a fool but she called me it 1st ;)
Nobody will come here to post their opinion if that is how they are treated for stating an opinion.
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I said no one would listen to any point you were trying to make if you addressed the issue LIKE A fool.

In any event, there is nothing wrong with coming to the boards and stating your opinion. There is however a problem with coming onto the scene saying things like, "What's broken? The respawn rates! They are horrible!" That just comes accross as rude! Not as an innocent stating of ones opinion ...

In any event, this thread is over IMHO. Wiz already addressed the issue ... twice!

Wiz said:
No.
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Wiz said:
Your suggestion would essentially lead to the complete end of Adept raids as everyone would get everything they wanted from them within a month or two.
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Aytowun said:
Also Wiz and Jayelle's husband...I'm sorry I called Jayelle a fool but she called me it 1st ;)
Nobody will come here to post their opinion if that is how they are treated for stating an opinion.
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Jayelle said:
because you address the issue like a fool. Sad
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She said you are addressing the issue like a fool. Not that you are one. And some food for thought: Telling someone to get some manners in a manner that is just as rude as them is pretty hypocritical, don't you think?

And no, I think the respawn rate is fine. All high end raid targets have a week respawn, why shouldn't adepts?(As they are lower level 'raid' targets). SoD does want progression in levels. It's why they are there. So you level up, kill a few adepts (or try) on the way to 65. If you want to try to stay at a certain level, sure. Go for it, but the respawns are not going to lessen because of the players that want to keep their characters at a certain level.
 
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