Failing to steal generates heat even if nobody noticed you?

Ive been wondering also , if picking locks would generate heat while hidden.


As for pick pockets , i could SEE it if you did a critical fail (i.e caught)
 
Sneaking behind a NPC will now lower the chance of being discovered if you fail an attempt to steal

Lockpicking doors where citizens or Guards can see you generates Heat.
* Lockpicking will also make Guards that discover you attack you

Homepage info there. I think for picking locks if you are hidden, then you are not seen?
 
Nope, guards apparently aren't fooled by hide. I was hidden, picklocked a door and nearly got beaten to death by the Newport guards. Luckily, they run slow. I wasn't sneaking though, just hiding so that could have been it.
 
Ykari said:
Nope, guards apparently aren't fooled by hide. I was hidden, picklocked a door and nearly got beaten to death by the Newport guards. Luckily, they run slow. I wasn't sneaking though, just hiding so that could have been it.
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Are you sure you didn't fail hide/sneak?
 
Doesnt hide count in your skill level and the mobs level , i.e youcant hide from a guard at 50 hide over 100.
 
lotox said:
Doesnt hide count in your skill level and the mobs level , i.e youcant hide from a guard at 50 hide over 100.
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I thought hide skill level was just a % to successfully hide. (same with sneak)
 
I believe it is. Also, guards do indeed see through hide/sneak when you're picking locks. I've run into a problem where the guards in Red Sun Mines see me picking the door to a place and want to kill me. Well, they succeed :(
 
This is kinda of reverting back to Live days, but didn't hide drop as soon as you moved? meaning in order to not show yourself you had to sneak after hide. Hide was only there to invisi you during downtime so that you wouldnt be discovered. if you moved or casted you immediately were visible.
 
wondering . .

Has anybody tried picking locks inside of the house they are picking at? In other words, pick once (succesfully), then run inside and pick from the inside. That way you would have to have the rare combination of a successful pick + guard walking by to be in trouble.
 
Having so many problems with new changes its so upsetting considering how fun it is to run thru buildings thinking OHSHIT is there a guard outside.

1st of the encountered issues is , my heat has been maxed for god knows how long , easily 4+ hours.
Following that notion , so many NPCS want to kill me now its almost IMPOSSIBLE to play , which is compounded by general slowness of sneak/hide and then even worse when a random guard decides to scream halt despite the fact that none of his other bodies saw me.

;(
 
It is a serious adjustment from the way it was. But, change is a good thing! This adds adventure to the skulduggery! Realism and depth to the game!
 
No, you only get heat if you're noticed. Front page is a bit badly worded.

It takes a few hours for heat to go away.

It would be pointless to have noone see you pick lock if you were hidden, I could just as well not have anyone see you ever.
 
Wiz said:
No, you only get heat if you're noticed. Front page is a bit badly worded.

It takes a few hours for heat to go away.

It would be pointless to have noone see you pick lock if you were hidden, I could just as well not have anyone see you ever.
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Think i should point out if you pick the lock near the bank (Lowbie door too) , everything including a bounty hunter will aggro you :(, even though they are in another building ./ around the corner
 
I love the new Rogue quests and abilities. I spent 3-4 hours last night playing around in Newport seeing how much heat I build up. I think heat brings a great new realizm to the game.

Kizer- lvl 9 Rogue
Nalad- lvl 28 Necro
 
To add, heat only goes away while logged in so be careful if you log out with too much heat
 
Wiz said:
No, you only get heat if you're noticed. Front page is a bit badly worded.

It takes a few hours for heat to go away.

It would be pointless to have noone see you pick lock if you were hidden, I could just as well not have anyone see you ever.
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Wiz, how about guards in Red Sun Mines? Could they possibly be changed to something other than guard status? As it stands, I don't know where to go to raise pick lock from 185+ as I get terminated in Red Sun Mines because of the new changes.
 
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