Manluas
Dalayan Elder
Yes - without a doubt. SoW alone will make the druid > 2nd necro more or less all the time.
Duo down to 2 choices. Please help.
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Yes - without a doubt. SoW alone will make the druid > 2nd necro more or less all the time.
Chessbuster
Dalayan Beginner
Your second question has already been answered, 2 necros would be useless imo. Druid brings so much more to the table.
I have used aggro kiting in 95% of my career, farming items in dungeons can be difficult at first, but you'll learn to adjust your playstyle. The druid heal isn't substantial enough to keep the pet healed under heavy damage, just keep that in mind. If you don't like aggro kiting or any tricky tactics just roll a tank class, it'll be much less risky than putting your pet on the line hoping he will hold out.
Manluas
Dalayan Elder
Also - think about playing Necro/Paladin, that's some sick combo vs. undeads.
harakiri23
Dalayan Beginner
Bevor you make a choice - think about what you want to do.
Do you want to kill something 12 levels above you through kiting? Why? For XP? Its useless, killing blues is alot faster and has no downtime.
Do you want something new? If you always played a pure caster why not try something else? I did play a mage on live and made a necro on SoD first - got him to lvl39 here. Then i thought about 2boxing and doing something else.
I made a shaman/SK combo. But you should see for yourself what you like - i can only give you hints why this was my prefered choice:
The reason for shaman is probably very easy to understand :
- supports melee classes better then a cleric/druid through haste and slow
- can offtank better then druid
- has quiet a good pet in comparison to SK pet
- reg mana in combat through canabilize
Sure, druid is the way to go if you absolulty must have ports - but you could also be a SoD Donator and get the Portal clicky.
As for SK, well for melee classes there are not many choices when you want a tank.
A pure warrior has nothing but its styles i believe. Besides the utility is missing there and SK has some nice spells (invis to undead etc).
Paladin VS SK is basically if you want feign death or some nice heals - for me feign death was more important because im pulling in dungeons.
It boils down to monk VS SK - although people say that a monk can tank just as well with the right gear the question is - do you can twink the hell out of your monk? Also the utility is missing from the monk - you can probably kill things faster with the monk but if you are planning on camping some nameds you need a better tank - for outdoor fear/kite/snare is also possible with SK. The SK pet itself is useless dmg wise but it can offtank one or two spells of caster mobs when you pull multiple.
My Sk/Shaman duo is pretty solid, it can handle dark blues up to 3 without much trouble through rooting (of course casters would be troubleful). I did make a lvl from 30-34 every 90min in upper guk. They are not twinked, all gear is what they got themself through selling stuff etc.
Do you want to kill something 12 levels above you through kiting? Why? For XP? Its useless, killing blues is alot faster and has no downtime.
Do you want something new? If you always played a pure caster why not try something else? I did play a mage on live and made a necro on SoD first - got him to lvl39 here. Then i thought about 2boxing and doing something else.
I made a shaman/SK combo. But you should see for yourself what you like - i can only give you hints why this was my prefered choice:
The reason for shaman is probably very easy to understand :
- supports melee classes better then a cleric/druid through haste and slow
- can offtank better then druid
- has quiet a good pet in comparison to SK pet
- reg mana in combat through canabilize
Sure, druid is the way to go if you absolulty must have ports - but you could also be a SoD Donator and get the Portal clicky.
As for SK, well for melee classes there are not many choices when you want a tank.
A pure warrior has nothing but its styles i believe. Besides the utility is missing there and SK has some nice spells (invis to undead etc).
Paladin VS SK is basically if you want feign death or some nice heals - for me feign death was more important because im pulling in dungeons.
It boils down to monk VS SK - although people say that a monk can tank just as well with the right gear the question is - do you can twink the hell out of your monk? Also the utility is missing from the monk - you can probably kill things faster with the monk but if you are planning on camping some nameds you need a better tank - for outdoor fear/kite/snare is also possible with SK. The SK pet itself is useless dmg wise but it can offtank one or two spells of caster mobs when you pull multiple.
My Sk/Shaman duo is pretty solid, it can handle dark blues up to 3 without much trouble through rooting (of course casters would be troubleful). I did make a lvl from 30-34 every 90min in upper guk. They are not twinked, all gear is what they got themself through selling stuff etc.
Chessbuster
Dalayan Beginner
It's not troublesome at all, I can keep 6-8 mobs, if not more locked down with the necro's 30 tick root and ensnaring roots. In a confined space. There is enough utility with a necro & druid duo to handle quite a bit, even in crappy gear..
harakiri23
Dalayan Beginner
you forgot the point - root does not prevent a caster mob to cast it spells - they are RANGE attacks so root is useless against casters
Manluas
Dalayan Elder
Necro/Druid duo does not only have pretty powerful CC (Mezzes, single target root, AE root, snare), you can sow yourself and outrange caster mobs and you get some resist buffs (all but PR/DR) so yeah - you can easily handle caster mobs even at lower levels.
If you still have trouble simply avoid them, it's totally possible.
Bottom note: Necro/Druid is quite powerful, Necro/Paladin is another very viable option.
harakiri23
Dalayan Beginner
I still see no point in this answer - please reread my post - i simply stated that for MY SHM/SK 2box combo caster mobs are troubleful because root does not prevent them from casting
what has this todo with necro or druid ? i never told anything about necro druid
Manluas
Dalayan Elder
You stated, that they can be troublesome with your Sk/Shaman combo, the next answer was as follows:
and thus bringing the discussion back to the Necro/druid duo (where it was before).
Your answer to this was the following:
to which I answered what you can read above so yeah - while you yourself didn't directly talk about Necro/Druid combo the discussion itself was about this combo so well - my answer was actually perfectly fine and in line with what you wrote because you answered to something that was about necro/druid.
Anywys, this is not the point to argue about who said what, it's rather to line out some pros and cons of various combos so the OP can make a decision what he wants to play.
Was under the impression druids got resist disease and DMF was poison resist :O?
Eitherway you have alot of options to duo for solo ability, depending on alot of factors.
I would avoid two pet classes like the plague with the biggest reason being that at low levels none of them really have the ability to heal themselves or the other caster that well (sorry beastlords :*()
As for the idea of shamans being superior to druids when duoing a melee/tank, its somewhat of a joke and depends exactly WHAT you intend to or want to duo, leveling up I could agree shaman is pretty nice but making points like them being superior later on do to haste (lol) is kind of weak. Especially with the flawless logic of there always being atleast 2 enchanters in athica at any given time.
The downtime might be somewhat meh with a untwinked druid/necro but it will probably be way more feasible then the melee/priest route where gear will literally make you cry. Where as the necro is still struttin around lasanth in his awesome 6 mana augged tailor bought cloth gear.
Druid necro: A+
With that said depending on your timezone , there are still people on at 6:30 am (EST here), but not as many especially in the lower end range
. So I suggest you pick a class that you want to play as opposed to what you think you need do to time restrictions.
Manluas
Dalayan Elder
Druids get Resists vs. Cold/Fire, IIRC a weak resist vs. magic, necros get PR and I think DR is there as well but that might be wrong.
You'll have at least Cold, Fire and Poison covered.
Chessbuster
Dalayan Beginner
EDIT: I believe all the resists are covered.
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lynnettell
Dalayan Elder
Druids do get resist disease, resist poison, and resist magic. 44 for DR/PR, 49 for MR, with the endures at lower levels.
Tempus
Staff Emeritus
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lynnettell
Dalayan Elder
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