Demitri Eto issue

narmarratuk

narmarratuk

Dalayan Adventurer
Okey here is the issue, my high elf pally gets charmed by him, and before I get a lot of flame about his crap being irresistible first lets consider this.
Immune>irresistible
High elves are IMMUNE to charm
this means while YES charm is going to land, YET charm is not going to have any effect on them because they are IMMUNE. Please fix this so that I can kick the crap out of this dragon that is pissing me off.

Thanks
 
narmarratuk said:
Okey here is the issue, my high elf pally gets charmed by him, and before I get a lot of flame about his crap being irresistible first lets consider this.
Immune>irresistible
High elves are IMMUNE to charm
this means while YES charm is going to land, YET charm is not going to have any effect on them because they are IMMUNE. Please fix this so that I can kick the crap out of this dragon that is pissing me off.

Thanks
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Welcome to like 2 years ago. It's already been stated this won't change, old thread. It's already been rehashed several times as well. Yes, I and just about every other high elf also think it sucks and regrets their race choice.
 
well hope they reconsider that, because it messes up my view of the game, they are not sticking to their word them and giving false information which people use to create their characters. That is just wrong.
 
narmarratuk said:
well hope they reconsider that, because it messes up my view of the game, they are not sticking to their word them and giving false information which people use to create their characters. That is just wrong.
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I think you're being unreasonable about this. Being immune to every single charm in the game would be extremely overpowered and break some content. Also if you can't see the reason in what I'm saying those spells are Possessions not Charms, problem solved.
 
narmarratuk said:
well hope they reconsider that, because it messes up my view of the game, they are not sticking to their word them and giving false information which people use to create their characters. That is just wrong.
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that's some persuasive and awesome argumentation right there
 
Rorne said:
I think you're being unreasonable about this. Being immune to every single charm in the game would be extremely overpowered and break some content. Also if you can't see the reason in what I'm saying those spells are Possessions not Charms, problem solved.
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The main problem is not necessarily that. It's that the word immune makes one expect to be actually immune. So instead of a decent racial bonus to compare with say, gnome, you get one that is pretty much completely worthless, and by the time you generally figure this out, you've spent a great deal of effort and re-rolling is just not feasible. Which is just plain insulting.

If for instance the bonus did not say immune, there would be about as many (perhaps very very slightly more) high elf characters as there are human ones.

Also there already exist racial bonuses which are way way way way way way more powerful than being completely immune to every charm in the game would be.

But this particular argument was done to death years ago.
 
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I changed the wiki description of High Elves slightly. Take a look and see if
it would help someone avoid this mistake in the future.
 
Yes, that should be abundantly clear now.

On a different note. I creeps me out a little to see a decapitated head in the description. :)
 
No, you won't get full immunity.

Yes, we did say we were going to re-balance racials at some point.

No, I don't when.

No, you probably won't get to repick race when it happens.
 
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The unstoppable force vs. the immovable object.
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It's a really shitty analogy from a poor thought experiment, that doesn't even specify the matter state of either. There are a ton of possibilities that result in the cancellation of neither, provided either could actually exist in the first place.
 
in the world of medicine
you can be a carrier of a virus but immune to it thus the virus has no effect on you, that is what I meant by immune here, the spell will hit since it is unresistable and whatever crap you want to add along, it may knock a buff slot, but have no effect since high elves are immune. That's how realistically we can view that situation. A similar shitty topic I remember that in plane of water we had the same argument with a boss there(think it was elder) fearing knights that were immune, well after that debate (tons of hours the guild arguing with an dev) it got fixed and made it so it could no longer fear knights. I don't think being immune to charm is a HUGE bonus compared to gnomes and erudites(really how many raid mobs are out there that do charm?) compared to 10% to armor bonus forever and spell damage, in fact I made my paladin a high elf for role playing purposes to begin with, what bothers me here is crap like saying things and not sticking to their word, and seen it several times, and the only excuse they can come up with is well it is overpowering, well crap you should have tough about that before you made it that way. It just have been excuses, no real argument, nothing that can't be back up.
 
Unresistable mezz/charm spells are pretty annoying. I try not to use them unless absolutely necessary.

Your immunity works perfectly against mezzes/charms that are not unresistable.

As far as ALL racial bonuses go: they are already on the docket and rambling passive-aggressive posts full of bad analogies and grammar won't make anything get done any faster.
 
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