Damage Shields

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MurphysLaw

Dalayan Beginner
Damage shields are cool. What is the maximum possible damage I could achieve with a DS combination, and what spells should I use to reach this?

On a related note, if I were to make a 4-man group designed around maximizing DS effectiveness, what classes would it include? Would this group be successful at 65?
 
Druid/Bard casting Damage Shields on a ranger is what I can think of first.

Could be in the neighbourhood of 120.

Druid relic DS, pot4, bladecoat?
 
NivensLaw said:
Damage shields are cool. What is the maximum possible damage I could achieve with a DS combination, and what spells should I use to reach this?

On a related note, if I were to make a 4-man group designed around maximizing DS effectiveness, what classes would it include? Would this group be successful at 65?
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Depends on your class really. Druids and mages really are the ones that can get the highest in this area due both to spineskin and aa elemental form fire. (20, and 30 respectively).

Elemental form fire gives you an advantage of approximately 13 over other classes (elemental form fire clicky is 17 ds). Spineskin gives an advantage of like 16ish over the amount achievable by most classes through clickies (mantle of the forest for instance). Other things include ds pots/rod of living fire for 8, tmap rings for 5ish, ravenward for 2, druid ds for 45 (as opposed to mage ds's 43). Bards also have 2 songs capable of increasing ds. The highest I've ever pumped ds on aisling is 131ish.

It depends highly on where you're going whether a 4man dsgroup would be effective tbh. Easy choices are Pally Bard Druid Mage. Allowing for a considerable amount of ds on all. Provided one can muster the 20k+ that one is going to need to shell out to get the necessary clickies to pump it to max on all of them.
 
So does the fire elemental clicky, mantle of forest clicky, and DS pot all stack with one another?

Or would the mantle be overridden by a main buff class DS?

There is also the 5 Ds rings from map loots. I know it stacks with pots and such.
 
mantle isn't overwritten by druid/mage ds... it is the same buff as the druid self-only ds.

Also, I am pretty sure pots are overwritten by druid/mage ds.

I believe, but dont know for sure that mantle and fire elemental stack.

No idea whether tmap ring stacks /w mantle/ToLL.
 
Actually, I think that Druid DS stacks with pot DS.

Maybe someone who has a pretty good grasp on DS functionality can start some sort of stacking chart we can reference? Might be helpful and something good to add to Wiki. /shrug.
 
Arcen said:
mantle isn't overwritten by druid/mage ds... it is the same buff as the druid self-only ds.

Also, I am pretty sure pots are overwritten by druid/mage ds.

I believe, but dont know for sure that mantle and fire elemental stack.

No idea whether tmap ring stacks /w mantle/ToLL.
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Fire Elemental illusion stacks with all other non illusion DS. Pots stack with all non pot DS. Mantle casts a druid/ranger buff line that only does not stack with that same line. Tmap rings stack with everything but other Tmap rings.
 
DS Stacking


bard (can be modded for high numbers)
Ds Potion 7
Druid group ds 45 / mage group ds 43
druid self ds 20 / mantle of the forest 4
mage fire form(aisling help)/ token of living lava 13
Tmap ring 5
Raven ward 2
rod of living fire 8(only int casters /evil)



a druid with no help from anyone can reach 95
45 buff
20 self
13 token
7 pot
5 tmap ring
=80 im missing 15 somewere
i know i can hit 95 without dificulty just i havent logged in in about 6 months so who knows what im forgetting
 
seferon said:
DS Stacking


bard (can be modded for high numbers)
Ds Potion 7
Druid group ds 45 / mage group ds 43
druid self ds 20 / mantle of the forest 4
mage fire form(aisling help)/ token of living lava 13
Tmap ring 5
Raven ward 2
rod of living fire 8(only int casters /evil)



a druid with no help from anyone can reach 95
45 buff
20 self
13 token
7 pot
5 tmap ring
=80 im missing 15 somewere
i know i can hit 95 without dificulty just i havent logged in in about 6 months so who knows what im forgetting
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yea i am having trouble remembering also argh.

when i solo i just use spineskin and relic works just fine.
 
I can stack all of the following:

Fire illusion: 17pts
Relic druid DS: 45pts.
DS pots: 8pts.
Pot4 DS: depends on singing mod and AAs iirc.
Mantle of the Forest DS: 8pts.
Tmap rings DS: 10pts

With max spell/clicky DS and Lilliana singing I can get over 100pts. I'm pretty sure if a ranger was trying to get maximum DS he could stack it to about 150pts. Sacrificing buff slots is fail though. Also, self ds/ac line (read: spikecoat) does not stack with enchanter AC illusions; Mantle of the Forest clicky overwrites illusionary platemail.

Edit: added values.
 
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Tmap rings dont stack. at least if youre referring to the everfreezing/everburning essence ones. they replace each other, stack with all other forms of ds and offer like a 2%fire/cold focus iirc.
 
Vartenaal said:
Tmap rings dont stack. at least if youre referring to the everfreezing/everburning essence ones. they replace each other, stack with all other forms of ds and offer like a 2%fire/cold focus iirc.
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Only one Tmap ring DS can be active at one time.

booster said:
just an aside, but, i dont think dru/rng self only ds/ac buff stacks with armor(plate/chain, etc..) illusions.
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This is correct.
 
Budizzle said:
I can stack all of the following:

Fire illusion: 17pts
Relic druid DS: 45pts.
DS pots: 8pts.
Pot4 DS: depends on singing mod and AAs iirc.
Mantle of the Forest DS: 8pts.
Tmap rings DS: 10pts

With max spell/clicky DS and Lilliana singing I can get over 100pts. I'm pretty sure if a ranger was trying to get maximum DS he could stack it to about 150pts. Sacrificing buff slots is fail though. Also, self ds/ac line (read: spikecoat) does not stack with enchanter AC illusions; Mantle of the Forest clicky overwrites illusionary platemail.

Edit: added values.
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Mantle is 4ds and PoT4 is always 22ds no matter what.
 
seferon said:
DS Stacking


bard (can be modded for high numbers)
Ds Potion 7
Druid group ds 45 / mage group ds 43
druid self ds 20 / mantle of the forest 4
mage fire form(aisling help)/ token of living lava 13
Tmap ring 5
Raven ward 2
rod of living fire 8(only int casters /evil)



a druid with no help from anyone can reach 95
45 buff
20 self
13 token
7 pot
5 tmap ring
=80 im missing 15 somewere
i know i can hit 95 without dificulty just i havent logged in in about 6 months so who knows what im forgetting
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carnitas6 said:
yea i am having trouble remembering also argh.

when i solo i just use spineskin and relic works just fine.
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Relic: 45
Self: 20
Token: 17
Potion: 8
T-map: 5
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Total: 95

L2Druid
 
Nodnal said:
Mantle is 4ds and PoT4 is always 22ds no matter what.
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Oh, hmm. Maybe I was thinking of Bladecoat. I've never actually calculated the PoT4 DS though. Good to know.

Edit: I thought I remember the tmap rings stacking, heh. It's been a long time since I've actually clicked one.
 
Aisling Tanking ds mode

Fire Elemental form: 30 ds
Druid ds: 45 ds
Fire tmap ring: 5 ds
Rod of Living Fire: 8ds
Mantle of the Forest: 4 ds
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92 ds
 
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