Dalayas Beginners guild chat today

[Otcho]

Man, you are NOT gonna like some of the Ikisith content.

Be sure to pledge your toons to gradalsh he has the least "Colorful" of quest lines.

 

[DookeyKing]

responsible use of cocaine and LSD.

LOL

But seriously, most teenagers are exposed to worse language at school than they are likely to see in global chat channels. Also, most Middle Schoolers are at least aware of drugs. I had ( and continue to have) the drug/alcohol talk with my Middle Schooler when he was still in fifth grade. I certainly wouldn't let an MMO provide the first drug information my kids received.

 

[Decidion]

It is impossible to police every public chat channel 100% of the time, nor does anyone want to do it. Use ignore, use filters, use screenshots and petition, or leave the guild, as you did. This is a terrible whiny thread which could have been resolved quietly. Sorry your delicate sensibilities were offended, but perhaps you shouldn't do quests either, since there is both harsh language and adult themes in some of them.

Keep in mind however, this isn't exactly a game made for children (as with all online games), so you have no cause defending the unspoken "younger players". If you want your sons to play, that's your decision, and its up to you to filter what they see if something offends you. Unless things get out of hand (as they quickly tend to with politics or religion) some topics you might find offenseive are allowed or overlooked to a degree, until they cross a line, which seems to be set at a threshhold higher than you are comfortable with.

Whining? Because I would rather game chat was about the game and not about the sordid or illegal aspects of life? Don't you get enough of that from TV, the Movies and whatever venue of the internet you seek out already? Resolved quietly? You mean like they were already doing in chat? Or were you just whining about someone whining?

I have had plenty enough discussions with my kids about drugs...in fact they were the ones originally bringing this whole chat thing up to me. I'm certainly not going to leave it up to an onlie chat to educate them.

But seriously, what does this contribute to the game? Can you answer yes to any of these questions?:

Does it help with understanding or playing the game or game mechanics?

Does it help foster a community within the game with all the arguing in chat about it?

Does it help promote the Shards image or membership?


If it doesnt promote the game, and causes this kind of contention, why even allow it?

I understand what Dookey is saying... it's one of the reasons I home school my kids!

 

[Ikaa|LoveYums]

Your solution is to try and curb all discussion in public channels to be focused solely on the game??

Do I have to point out how ridiculously needless that is? Not to mention that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to enforce, and besides all that, is just plain dumb.

Did you wantonly ignore 90% of what I wrote, or did you find a sentence that disagreed with you and cling to it, throwing out your unrelated points. There is plenty of in game chat about the game, but since the majority of players do not live in it 24 hours a day, then aspects of life crop up, whether it be current events, or personal experiences, either taboo or not. On top of that, there are trolls who will say things just to get a rise out of someone. They exist in every internet community and this one is no different. You chose *ONE* discussion on *ONE* day and suddenly there is a grand and sweeping problem.

Does chat get out of hand sometimes? Yes. I policed it for years. Is it curbed when appropriate? Yes. I did that many times. Is judgment used when doing so? Yes, which means the line is up to the one policing it, taking the population as a whole into account and remaining objective about it. That's IF someone is watching it (and not doing one of a hundred other things) and if they perceive it to go too far.

Rethink exactly what you are asking for, while remembering that a rigid and oppressive rule structure makes the game no fun, and the current staff will never put what you are suggesting in place, which is what makes this a whiny and unnecessary thread.

I reiterate, there are many aspects of the game that are not intended for children, completely aside from the community interaction. There are drug like substances in the game. There are quests that involve assassination, coercion through force and trickery, foul language, etc. So even if you never interact with another person, you (from what I gather of you) will likely still be offended. This isnt Hello Kitty Adventures.

 

[Rari]

It isn't "allowed" as such when it gets offensive - politics, religion lewd sexual discussion and pedophilia are big no-nos in public channels. In this case they were advised by a GM, in guild chat, to take it to tells, and then both unofficial and broadcasted warnings were issued. Most of the people who were doing it actually left DB when that happened. You're acting like it was hellish chaos with no moderation (which yes, sometimes it is, but in this case you're blowing it out of proportion.)

If it gets so bad you're finding it terribly offensive, you could always petition. Or filter guild.

Not really sure what you're going for with this thread, Decidion.

 

[Decidion]

Apparently they were told to curb it after I /guildremoved or perhaps while zoning. But it did go on for 10-15 minutes with them spamming the DB guild channel and no GMs had said anything. Which is when I just left DB because I didn't know how else to shut them off my screen.

 

[Decidion]

Did you wantonly ignore 90% of what I wrote, or did you find a sentence that disagreed with you and cling to it, throwing out your unrelated points. There is plenty of in game chat about the game, but since the majority of players do not live in it 24 hours a day, then aspects of life crop up, whether it be current events, or personal experiences, either taboo or not. On top of that, there are trolls who will say things just to get a rise out of someone. They exist in every internet community and this one is no different. You chose *ONE* discussion on *ONE* day and suddenly there is a grand and sweeping problem.

I think I ignored about as much of your post as you ignored my point. I clearly stated the problem occured today and I never made any statements about this being a sweeping problem. I think you are blowing this out of proportion just because I don't see eye to eye with your infinite wisdom.

You know, in retrospect, this was a pretty civilized thread until you stepped in and started accusing people of whining and brought in a very contentious attitude. If you didnt have anything contribute in a non-antagonistic way, why even post? Just ignore it as some newb whining again....something I am convinced you have never, ever done.

 

[Tarutao]

<Dalaya's Beginners> guild chat is considered a public chat channel.

A lot of GM characters (my GM character included) are in <Dalaya's Beginners>.

GMs handling petitions tend to do quite a bit of zoning and may miss things, but we do try to "discourage" particularly unsavory topics such that illicit drug abuse in public channels.

We cannot and will not moderate that or any channel 24 hours a day every day. If this simple result of volunteer work is wholly unacceptable to you, go read a book or something.

Locked for all the kvetching and "did you even read my post?" comments which are entirely unnecessary.