Consolidation of Buffs

soba

Dalayan Beginner
I've seen it lamented quite a few times that the amount of buffs cannot be raised because it would require messing with the client, would it be possible instead to consolidate some of the buffs we already have to make some room? It would have to be done carefully to avoid stacking issues, and buffs that are usually needed in their singular form such as shaman cha which is needed with won.

Just a few ideas for buff consolidation:

Essence of Tarhansar + Essence of the Wild
Jayla's Boon + Glory of Enthann
Sihala's Gift + Shroud of Seasons

I realize these buff pairings are a bit odd with haste being jammed in with a mana regen spell but these pairings are simply for the sake of consolidation alone.

Combining just these buffs would free up 3 very needed buff slots, from my point of view as a Beastlord this would be a huge boon for me as I am very short on slots needing both caster and melee buffs, especially so when resists are needed, and with clicky/proc buffs being fairly common at the endgame.

If buff management at it's current level is deemed part of the challenge of the game by the staff then ignore this, but I seem to remember the staff themselves occasionaly wishing they could add more buff slots.

Add your own ideas for buff combinations or simply critique my selections, just remember to keep in mind stacking issues and buffs that are still needed single.

Example:
EoT+EoTW+Focus would be a bad combination, a caster would have to lose out on UV/see invis/ 8 hp a tick/extra HP from Sta when choosing to have WoN instead.
 
The slot system sharply limits how much we can consolidate buffs and we're definitely not going to consolidate relics since that would require adding another relic spell to the class.
 
What about the SoS + Sihala combo? that would be at least one slot freed up when resists are needed, and I'm sure there's another combination I haven't thought of yet that doesn't involve relic buffs.I guess what I am asking is if you're open to suggestions for buff consolidation that don't include relics?

I wasn't asking for an additional spell to be added, rather for one of the two combined spells to be deleted and the remaining spell modified to include the other buff in the spellfile and the player would still retain the remaining spell without having to petition for it, if that's even possible. I can see how EoT+EoTW wouldn't work with the slot issue.
 
ones an ancient and ones not in that combo.


I love the idea though, it sucks having to choose which buffs to click off
 
I like the way it is..
As a ranger, i also use caster and melee buffs...
Jb for me is esential because my nukes are quite good.
All i do is take off any hp regen, since im not tanking and im not necro neither shaman.
Take out any uneccesaire (is that right?) resists..
And any ds that wouldnt make any difference too
Not to mantion i have to make room for my self buffs
 
Waldoff said:
ones an ancient and ones not in that combo.

Yeah I realize Sihala's is an ancient, the idea would be to delete SoS and add the resists to the ancient spell.
 
Not that they ever plan to add such spells,

but this would make a great idea for wis caster archaics.

The reality is, consolidating 2 shaman relic buffs into 1, would give said buff target an amazing advantage, allowing him to have excess buff slots, and might actually be as useful as a fresh new spell.

my only other idea would be to allow preists to have prayers of protection that count as songs? maybe?

All you 6k cleric's might actually utilize your puppet!
 
diolas said:
Sihala's is already a two in one spell (rejuv/regen).

There is no reason it can't have the resists added on top of those two, you wouldn't reach the effect cap.
 
Riesen said:
Not that they ever plan to add such spells,

but this would make a great idea for wis caster archaics.

The reality is, consolidating 2 shaman relic buffs into 1, would give said buff target an amazing advantage, allowing him to have excess buff slots, and might actually be as useful as a fresh new spell.

my only other idea would be to allow preists to have prayers of protection that count as songs? maybe?

All you 6k cleric's might actually utilize your puppet!

Shaman archaic is a slow iirc. Wiz linked it once in /ooc. I think the cleric archaic is an upgrade to HPB + more mana or something? Forget what the druid archaic is. But to my knowledge nobody has any of these spells yet, not even forsaken.
 
Jinxat said:
Shaman archaic is a slow iirc. Wiz linked it once in /ooc. I think the cleric archaic is an upgrade to HPB + more mana or something? Forget what the druid archaic is. But to my knowledge nobody has any of these spells yet, not even forsaken.


they are all in the spell parser and easy to find. youve got most of them right too
 
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