Changing a buff clash (can it be done?)

Rusheeth

Rusheeth

Dalayan Adventurer
Shaman: I got murk spell a while back, and just as the past 4 years as a Cola Bear I got bored of looking at my brown ass and got a dagger of protective illusions. Happy as a polar bear, I go to Topor and it's blocked. So it turns out that chainmail illusion blocks ancient topor.

I don't see why, but is there any way this is just a mistake? If not, I'll just be sad and get over it.

Also / or another plea from me to make Murk form more interesting aesthetically! Anything other than that damn cola bear!
 
You dont have to keep the dagger buff on to lose the bear graphic.

Also if the default graphic was another color bear that would be cool. Or maybe an owl bear.
 
I know I can look like me if I click the dagger illusion, but I went to all that effort. To look like a slackjaw goofbear. A move to be a different colour: win. They won't change it to anything that isn't already global, owlbear isn't global :(
 
Rusheeth said:
I know I can look like me if I click the dagger illusion, but I went to all that effort. To look like a slackjaw goofbear. A move to be a different colour: win. They won't change it to anything that isn't already global, owlbear isn't global :(
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Not sure if SoD ever patches it, but replacing your globalload file in the resources folder (main EQ directory) would make every model for everything global. So no more Pumas running around as humans in NWoT and such. You could replace this yourself, however if SoD patcher replaces it each time, wouldn't really be worth it.

(Also, this is for up to Seeds of Destruction client. Not sure if that would effect anything either. Ideally I would like all models to be global in SoD anyway.)
 
There's some issues with that. The thing Vitali posted goes a long way to help with that with 2 issues I'm aware of (1) much longer zoning times since that's a client-side loading increase that the new server wouldn't affect (2) it's not infallible.

Since (1) is straightforward, I'll mention my experience as a player with (2). In a few of the Tier 12+ encounters, there are adds that mean to use models not normally loaded into zones, like slime model in Tur`Ruj (chardok) and the phoenix model in Azzerach (pofire).

Despite repeated attempts to send adjusted chr files for those zones through the patcher, many people that did those encounters would either never see those models or only see them occasionally. I've never seen Blazewind as anything but a human model except in other people's screenshots, and half the time I've done Warchief Rujik Moktar, the slime adds showed up as humans.

The best solution FWF came up with is to keep the text of the intended chr files on their guild forums, and some of us would replace our chr files with those before every raid, and that seemed to help some (though I admit it might have been a placebo effect).


In short, there's some issues with that, but Vitali's suggestion is a good one that you can do yourself if your computer can handle it without unacceptably long zoning times. Also, if you happen to know a fix for the issues I've described, I bet Woldaff and I would race to throw Fame Points at you for that.
 
I appreciate it, though it was really more of a group effort between myself, Mazi, and Tarma. I don't think I'd deserve all the credit for it, even though they don't play anymore.

As far as load times are concerned, I'm pretty sure it only applies to the initial load into the world. It takes slightly longer to get in, but from there it *should* take the same amount of time to zone.

I have been using this for Underfoot client I've been dev'ing with, so I am not sure if it processes data differently then Titanium. I would imagine it does, but how is unclear to me.

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Also, I would see if you could get a dev to see what gender is used for the models you are having issues with. If it is a gender neutral NPC, like an elemental or something (slime model) try using #npcedit gender 2. The problem could be that it/ they are set to male or female gender, which wouldn't load the appropriate texture.
 
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I still rarely see enchanter pets as spread-eagle, naked human females, and I've never seen the Box of Angry Halflings models at all (they must be invisible or something). However, those are the only character model issues I can think of ever having that our FWF fix didn't cover. I should really look into why that happens.
 
Vitali said:
If it is a gender neutral NPC, like an elemental or something (slime model) try using #npcedit gender 2. The problem could be that it/ they are set to male or female gender, which wouldn't load the appropriate texture.
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I use the Underfoot install, so the problems I discussed exist (or at least can exist) with that install as well.

Checking the gender of those mobs was one of the first things I did, even before mentioning it in guild chat, ventrilo, or staff channels. That was a good idea, though. The issue of other NPCs like the slime adds in the Moktar fight that works properly then doesn't the next time, then does a couple times, then doesn't a couple times... that one is just frustratingly confusing.

EDITED TO ADD: I've also been unable to see gnolls in Blackburrow, and I've heard others with the Underfoot Compilation Pack install say the same. I've changed my chr file for that zone a number of times, using versions from guildmates, a version that looks similar to the LONG one posted earlier in this thread, and even one from... DRAEOS... No dice.
 
Very strange indeed. I guess it would have to be something unique to the server and how things are coded. I've never tried my hand at dev application, only because of the horrors i've heard about how things have to be done.

I've been spoiled with GUI type item creation and mob editing. (Example used with wiki info)

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