Buff Stacking system.

S

Snake

Dalayan Elder
Here is my suggestion...

First a few definition's, this is how the game already works (i hope).

Buff-series:
All buffs should belong to a buff-series, starting with the lowest level/effect (duration, +hp, +ac, +mana regen, +haste, ect) of the buff, ending with the highest.
Example's:
1.
Protection of the Cabbage/Protection of the Glades -> Relic: Ward of Nature.

2.
Divine Vigor -> Sihala's Steadfast Aegis -> Divine Glory -> Divine Strength -> Sihala's Mountainous Barrier-> Sihala's Stalwart Shield.

3.
Augmentation -> Augment -> Empower.


Stacking:
Some buff-series don't stack, because they have similar effects.
Example's (only showing the end buff, of each buff-line):
1.
Glory of Enthann || Empower || Jonthan's Inspiration || (various pet buff series)

2.
Relic: Ward of Nature. || Relic: Ancestral Focus || Aegis of Magic

3.
Sihala's Stalwart Shield || Spiritual Vigor || Cloak of the Razad



Now the rules i think these should follow:

Rule #1.
Buffs with in same buff-line.

1.1; The buff you have on is higher level/effect than the cast buff, the cast buff does not take hold.
1.2; The buff you have on is lower level/effect than the cast buff, the cast buff overwrites the old buff.
1.3; The buff you have on, is the same level/effect as the cast buff.
1.3.1; If the cast buff is soul bound, the cast buff will overwrite the old buff, regardless if the old buff is soul bound or not.
1.3.2; If the cast buff is not soul bound, and the old buff is, the cast buff will not take hold.
1.3.3; If the cast buff is not soul bound, and the old buff is also not soul bound.
1.3.3.1; The cast buff has longer duration than the old buff, the cast buff will overwrite the old.
1.3.3.2; The cast buff has shorter duration than the old buff, the cast buff will not take hold.

Rule #2.
Buffs on same Stacking.

2.1; The cast buff will not take hold, if you have a buff on of a different buff-line.
 
Buff stacking is already fairly balanced and works well on SoD. I do not see this changing any time in the future. You can already make your toon very powerful with a few buffs. Making more of them stack is not the way to go. If you think one spell should stack with another, make a post specifically to that, and don't make a vague suggestion.

If you are worried about SB buffs not being overwritten by new SB buffs, then click your old. The system is very easy that is in place. There is no need for any change to the system as a whole, but maybe to a few buffs only. Please list the problematic spells if this is the case.
 
Nodnal said:
Buff stacking is already fairly balanced and works well on SoD. I do not see this changing any time in the future. You can already make your toon very powerful with a few buffs. Making more of them stack is not the way to go. If you think one spell should stack with another, make a post specifically to that, and don't make a vague suggestion.

If you are worried about SB buffs not being overwritten by new SB buffs, then click your old. The system is very easy that is in place. There is no need for any change to the system as a whole, but maybe to a few buffs only. Please list the problematic spells if this is the case.
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Read my post again, then edit your post.

No where did i suggest more buffs stacking, than what they do now.

As always, this is suggestions for changes, to make SoD a better place.
I know i can click my buffs, and that way make sure SB buffs stack, but my system is better, and thrue those simple rules (may not be simple to you, but that are simple) you wont have to click your buffs, and once you "commit" to one buff-line, you dont have to worry about other buff-lines being cast on you (of the same stacking).
 
Hmm ok i can see how my topic is misleading, my bad.

It should prolly have been more like "Buffs overwriting system".
 
There are very few ways in which the system already in place differs from yours, I think the only significant deviations are going to come where the buffs in question are sorted by a different stat than what you think they should be; for instance there are some self-HP buffs int casters get that do not stack with shiritri's ward because the HP buff has an MR component. edit: i didn't even notice you used this same example in your OP.

It would be nice if the client would check and see if the incoming soulbonded buff is "better" than your old one, whether an upgrade to the buff or a longer duration increment or whatever, but I doubt it's very feasible and I could imagine that doing that sort of query across an entire raid might make zone/server lag.
 
well ATM, SSS overwrites SV. But Relic Focus doesnt overwrite WoN (or vise versa). This needs fixing (the SSS overwriting).

Same goes for haste, all haste spells with 60% haste or more, overwrites Empower, this also needs fixing.

And the really bizare one, lower level focus blocks Relic Focus.
 
potg, potc, won, non-relic group focus, relic group focus, lvl60 single focus, and lvl65 single focus all block each other actually...
 
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