Brusco's line and Pristine items

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I searched around on the forums to see if this had ever been acknowledge and I couldn't find anything. Recently another bard and I noticed that when using the same song (Bruso's Arrogant Bellow: Wind based: Level 39. In this case) we were doing very differing damage. Using similar gear (we both have a cloak of the wind which is a 2.0 wind modifier) he was easily doing over 80 more damage than I was per Brusco's.

In trying to figure this out we originally interpreted this to be related to dexterity but as I have done some testing it turns out in fact that for some reason Pristine items seem to be increasing the damage Brusco's does even when the items have no relation to any instrument modification. Whether this is known or intended I have no idea, so I am posting my tests and the information I have to maybe see an answer about this.

The items I used in testing (note I forgot to screencap the swordfish fin mantle which can be seen on my fomelo: http://shardsofdalaya.com/fomelo/fomelo.php?char=gerick ):

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This is a log of my testing in LFaydark during the day, it was clear weather:

[Mon Apr 14 21:30:43 2008] You say, 'now testing Brusco's Arrogand Bellow and the effects of pristine items on damage. Testing with Gold Engagement Ring on'
[Mon Apr 14 21:30:47 2008] Your song ends.
[Mon Apr 14 21:30:47 2008] Your song ends.
[Mon Apr 14 21:30:47 2008] You throw your head back and let loose a great bellow.
[Mon Apr 14 21:30:50 2008] a bloodclaw fighter says, 'Weakling Human! These lands belong to Clan Bloodclaw now, you shall pay with your life for intruding!'
[Mon Apr 14 21:30:50 2008] Gerick hit a bloodclaw fighter for 308 points of non-melee damage.
[Mon Apr 14 21:30:50 2008] A bloodclaw fighter reels in pain.
[Mon Apr 14 21:30:50 2008] Your song ends.


[Mon Apr 14 21:31:10 2008] You say, 'and now with it off'
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:12 2008] You throw your head back and let loose a great bellow.
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] a bloodclaw fighter says, 'Weakling Human! These lands belong to Clan Bloodclaw now, you shall pay with your life for intruding!'
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] Gerick hit a bloodclaw fighter for 294 points of non-melee damage.
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] A bloodclaw fighter reels in pain.
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] Your song ends.
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] Gerick hit a bloodclaw fighter for 294 points of non-melee damage.
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] a bloodclaw fighter says, 'Gaargh! The Bloodclaws will avenge me!'
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] You have slain a bloodclaw fighter!
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] Your faction standing with Bloodclaw Orcs has gotten worse!
[Mon Apr 14 21:31:13 2008] This creature is trivial to you and offers no experience.


[Mon Apr 14 21:32:46 2008] You say, 'and now with both Orcish Forged Bracer replacing Bracer of Champions and Gold Engagement Ring in'
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:48 2008] You throw your head back and let loose a great bellow.
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] a bloodclaw fighter says, 'Weakling Human! These lands belong to Clan Bloodclaw now, you shall pay with your life for intruding!'
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] Gerick hit a bloodclaw fighter for 323 points of non-melee damage.
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] A bloodclaw fighter reels in pain.
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] Your song ends.
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] Gerick hit a bloodclaw fighter for 323 points of non-melee damage.
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] a bloodclaw fighter says, 'Gaargh! The Bloodclaws will avenge me!'
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] You have slain a bloodclaw fighter!
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] Your faction standing with Bloodclaw Orcs has gotten worse!
[Mon Apr 14 21:32:51 2008] This creature is trivial to you and offers no experience.

[Mon Apr 14 21:33:54 2008] You say, 'and now also another orc bracer replacing Bracer of Fortitude and Pixie Silk Mantle replacing Swordfish Fin Mantle
[Mon Apr 14 21:33:58 2008] Your song ends.
[Mon Apr 14 21:33:58 2008] Your song ends.
[Mon Apr 14 21:33:58 2008] Orcish Forged Bracer has been bound to your person, and is no longer droppable. You must see an Unbinder if you wish it to become droppable again.
[Mon Apr 14 21:34:04 2008] Your song ends.
[Mon Apr 14 21:34:04 2008] Your song ends.
[Mon Apr 14 21:34:07 2008] You throw your head back and let loose a great bellow.
[Mon Apr 14 21:34:10 2008] Gerick hit a fae drake for 338 points of non-melee damage.
[Mon Apr 14 21:34:10 2008] You have slain a fae drake!
[Mon Apr 14 21:34:10 2008] This creature is trivial to you and offers no experience.
[Mon Apr 14 21:34:10 2008] Your song ends.








It is very possible I am missing something, this is my first time really attempting to test anything like this. If it were possible I would have had a GM help me by summoning a bunch of pristine no-stat items and testing that way. Anyways, if any other bards would like to test this out and post here with their results that would be great!
 
Just to be rigorous, are you sure that those are all max hits and not partial resists of the same max? I.E. are the results repeatable?
 
Llanoldar Lluindar said:
Just to be rigorous, are you sure that those are all max hits and not partial resists of the same max? I.E. are the results repeatable?

Yes, my max with standard gear as seen on my fomelo at the moment is 308
 
Yea, i tested this with pristine instruments and got the same result and thought it was limited to just pristine instruments. I however buglisted mine yesterday! This was a problem I had noticed with inconsistencies in my rdot damage and just recently narrowed it to being linked to pristine.

I didn't even think to test it w/ just an ordinary pristine item.

I confirm these tests with my own tests I have done w/ songs such as pot4 and rdot. Ginam also came to the same conclusion. This is definitely a bug where the pristine code is adding a .1 modifier to ALL currently worn instrument modifiers when a pristine item is equipped.
 
Pristine instruments should have .1 higher mods, but regular pristine items should not be affecting songs at all. Good catch as there are a lot of variables to take into consideration!
 
Thanks for weighing in guys and I am glad I'm not crazy. I was worried this thread would get buried and I would never hear anything definitive on it.
 
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