Blind as a bat! :)

I think you are making a far bigger deal than it really is. First off, it's not stupid, it's just flavour giving each class pros and cons (hint: look at the stats of blind characters compared to the others), and there is no point bitching about this at the SoD people because it wasn't their idea, it was decided by the people who made EQ in the 90's.

Secondly, your monitors seem to have some mysterious curse, maybe stop playing games in the bath. Thirdly, you don't need buffS, you need 1 buff, and a permanent illusion wont wear off. There are plenty of items that can help, and choosing items that work for your character is what the game is all about. If you had a character with better vision, you would be lacking something else that you would need to make up for in items anyway. If you can't just work one vision item in to your build, or one buff, then you are doing it wrong. Nobody should be ruining your buffs on a raid, if they are, your raid is doing it wrong. And if you still can't stand it, reroll... it's not like you don't have other choices, and levelling is so slow you have plenty of time to realise you don't like it and reroll.

When I play my erudite, I'm far more concerned about his malformed head than his easily fixable sight.
 
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I may be crazy but I remember enchanter illusions block elemental forms. So as a Mage that's a pretty bad trade off (also why I hate people who illusion my pet). But also as a Mage you have coldstones which are freaking awesome till you get a damage clicky for the ammo slot (mana clickies can be swaped in given their CD so if your to lazy/slow in the head to plan your actions 15 seconds in advance you got more problems than vision) , just summon one when your doing food/water and your set.
 
Yeah, in case you guys haven't realized, arguing with Bridger is a lost cause. He is always right, the rest of us are always wrong, and the MOP is pure and utter hell, permanently broken in his blind eyes. Just give it up, and ignore him like most of us do. :D
 
First off, it's not stupid, it's just flavour giving each class pros and cons (hint: look at the stats of blind characters compared to the others
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I see nothing significant between the starting stats od blind and non blind races.

and there is no point bitching about this at the SoD people because it wasn't their idea, it was decided by the people who made EQ in the 90's.
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That may well be the case but the decision to retain it is entirely the decision of the current Devs. There was a golden opportunity for change with the recent racial rebalance and another one with the upcoming new sever. To remove blindness would be simplicity itself.

Secondly, your monitors seem to have some mysterious curse, maybe stop playing games in the bath
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The monitor demise was entirely down to playing SoD with gamma way out of spec.

There are plenty of items that can help, and choosing items that work for your character is what the game is all about. If you had a character with better vision, you would be lacking something
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Just totally untrue. You do not lose anything for being non blind. You ONLY lose if you are blind and have to equip an item you would not chose to do if you were non blind.

Nobody should be ruining your buffs on a raid, if they are, your raid is doing it wrong
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I agree entirely - but try telling that to the idiots with the gender change clicky.
 
Bridger said:
That may well be the case but the decision to retain it is entirely the decision of the current Devs. There was a golden opportunity for change with the recent racial rebalance and another one with the upcoming new sever. To remove blindness would be simplicity itself.
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For someone who bitchs about being blind non stop, you sure don't do your homework, its hard coded into the client. wow
 
For someone who bitchs about being blind non stop, you sure don't do your homework, its hard coded into the client. wow
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So what?

Issue new players with a charm (or charm buyable for 1 copper) that has infravision or ultravision. Then also put infra/ultra on all subsequent charms.

Blindness then no longer an issue.
What is the problem?
 
OOH OOH tome idea: tome of sight 1/2 (only 2 ranks) When completed, it gives you infravision, then ultravision. Make it be worth 100 AAs each.
 
Bridger said:
I see nothing significant between the starting stats od blind and non blind races.

Just totally untrue. You do not lose anything for being non blind.
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No no, the races were all balanced with these things in mind. For example, INT for a spellcaster, is the most important stat. So an Erudite for example, their vision might need a buff, but look at their base INT (it's huge).

So when choosing your race, you are meant to decide this stuff for yourself. If you want good vision then become a dark elf or something, they have great vision. If you choose an Erudite everything is dark, but they get about 20 more int than everyone else which is a big deal. This is considered balance by most people, there are pros and cons of each race, and you are free to choose whichever one you want. So it has never been "fixed" because nobody else thinks it's broken. Like I said, if you can't stand the vision thing, and you refuse to go with one of the many solutions to it, then re-roll. Beyond that nobody can help you.

My offer is still open for a permanent illusion any time you want. Besides that I've said all I can about this. gl
 
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No no, the races were all balanced with these things in mind. For example, INT for a spellcaster, is the most important stat. So an Erudite for example, their vision might need a buff, but look at their base INT (it's huge).
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That is precisely the reason that makes the class a BAD choice.

You will finish up with far far more INT and CHA than you could possibly ever use and would far rather have those starting stats elsewhere.

So your "compensation" for blindness is to have the wrong starting stats.
Good deal eh.
 
Bridger said:
That is precisely the reason that makes the class a BAD choice.

You will finish up with far far more INT and CHA than you could possibly ever use and would far rather have those starting stats elsewhere.

So your "compensation" for blindness is to have the wrong starting stats.
Good deal eh.
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Thank you for considering every level of this game in your brilliant reasoning, and not just the very top end of it. :psyduck:
 
at the "very top end" is when vision stops becoming an issue, since you can use perception/NZ ring/any acumen item/etc or soulbond illusion or acumen
 
Anyone else get the idea that Bridger should never have rolled a human due to lack of relevant experience?

I mean, something about these posts just screams 'troll' for some reason...
 
Bridger said:
That is precisely the reason that makes the class a BAD choice.

You will finish up with far far more INT and CHA than you could possibly ever use and would far rather have those starting stats elsewhere.

So your "compensation" for blindness is to have the wrong starting stats.
Good deal eh.
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Hmm, it's only a bad choice in your opinion. Most people who choose an Erudite like having an int boost for 50 levels... plus a hundred or whatever AA's... plus many tiers of raiding, before it no longer becomes useful.

The fact is, it may be a bad choice (in your opinion), but it's still a choice that you made, when there are countless alternatives.

But the crucial thing here is, not only did you pick that race, but you then played it for months after month, all the way to the high tiers? If you hate it so much and you refuse to just get an item or a buff, why didn't you just reroll? You had plenty of time from 1-50 to think screw it, and just make a dark elf or something!

So, sorry but it's hard to find any empathy with that.
 
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Anyone else get the idea that Bridger should never have rolled a human due to lack of relevant experience?

I mean, something about these posts just screams 'troll' for some reason...
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i get the feeling that bridger is retarded. Tao edit -- this just got you a week off.

i get this feeling every time i read a bridger post.


content: Roll whatever race/class combo you want, if you put in enough time it doesnt matter.
 
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at the "very top end" is when vision stops becoming an issue, since you can use perception/NZ ring/any acumen item/etc or soulbond illusion or acumen
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why would casters use this trash when there are items for casters with lighting that are better.
 
Bridger said:
That is a massive overstatement.
Blind classes are 50% under-represented on a pro rata basis.
If it was a good choice they would be over-represented.
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This is totally wrong. There are fewer "blind" classes because so many players simply think Dark Elves and Iksars look cooler.

I'm #1 in my class. I play a "blind" character. I have never found it to be anything more than a minor annoyance. I've found numerous items to deal with it. Most recently: Zephilanaar, Signet of Captured Dreams, and Tear of Elial. When I didn't have an item, i just kept w/e stat buff gives vision. I don't know any INT casters with 485 meele stats, so those are always useful.

Most peoples' opinion of Bridger seems to be along the lines of him being incapable of performing tasks that are easy for the majority, and him being one to complain about small things that are usually not even a problem. (Not meant as an attack, I just don't want new players to be scared away from certain races because they are "blind")

Pick whatever race you like. If you min/max, weigh a minor annoyance vs racial bonuses. If you go by looks, that makes it easy. No race is "bad", and in the end race doesn't matter to 99% of players. Race is never a consideration for groups/guilds/etc.
 
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NZ ring is trash?
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I was tired and didn't even see it. Only saw the acumen items.

I agree with solo. The DE and iksar races have more attractive and varied graphics then the humanoid races, as well as being more visually interesting in their own right. That is why they are more highly represented then humanoids. But blindness is only an inconvenience and doesn't matter.

The only real complaint I have about my humanoid race is this;

I don't understand why they don't get 1% to melee crit like the other races with spell crit.
Erudites are seriously under represented in the caster sphere, and basically non-existent outside of it. Would it really hurt to give 1% melee crit to maybe spice up the sea of Iksar/DEs
that is SoD? They can be paladins or shadowknights too. They must have some melee ability.
 
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I don't think it's that it really "hurts" anything, I think it's just that this game is free to play and anything that gets done to it, is done by real people who are working out of love for their game and using up their spare time. They aren't paid developers.

In an ideal world, I would completely rework all the races and give each one unique pros and cons, including unique usable racial abilities, similar to what they did in Vanguard. But seeing as I can't program... it's tough :) The sod devs do so much, we just gotta get what we're given and be grateful imo, and I bet they have lots of high priority stuff to do.
 
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