Hey all! Being relatively new to the game, I was curious if anyone could clarify how us blind races...humans, barbs, erudites, etc can step up that eyesight. I'm aware that this can be delt with through the use of spells and illusions but i was curious if there is any other options out there though items, and gear. Thanks!
Blind as a bat! :)
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Elaquine
Dalayan Beginner
Seriously? You want to write off three races with an XP-bonus because they have poor night-vision?
My human rogue is perfectly playable; the only time I have ever really been hampered by the lack of night-vision is running the tunnels from Blackburrow to Everfrost without picking up the torch from my bank.
My human rogue is perfectly playable; the only time I have ever really been hampered by the lack of night-vision is running the tunnels from Blackburrow to Everfrost without picking up the torch from my bank.
I'd say you're fine as a rogue human, some classes get acumen which is see invis, ultravision and stamina regen, so you'll pretty much have that on whenever you can. If you have a torch, you're fine, as you don't really need it equipped all the time. Being a human rogue really is worth it for the 1% haste, 1% faction gain, and exp bonus, so I'd say don't reroll. And really, you can just turn up your in-game gamma to 100%, and if needed, your monitor's gamma too. Both those help a ton.
cian2
Dalayan Master
there are quite a few items with worn vision on them. by the time youre 65, as a melee especially, it won't be an issue.
http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Necklace_of_the_Watcher
http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Necklace_of_the_Watcher
Boehm
Dalayan Elder
The "human" races xp bonus and racials overall are deeply wtfever. But rerolling because you are blind is vastly over-reacting. For pure convenience, I would make an iksar or DE necro had I known, but its more an inconvenience then an issue. Those races also have much better item modeling. The human "races" robes, for instance, look like the same blue garbage bag for at least 10 tiers.
Loxo
Dalayan Elder
Magicians can summon a wearable lightsource almost immediately, and at level 34 an ammo slot item called "Shard of the Core" that will give the wearer ultravision. Druids, wizards, and necromancers also get summonable lightsources by like level 10, although some of those might be [NO DROP], I can't recall exactly which are which.
Other than Lightstones from various wisps (~lvl 15 in storm sea are the easiest I think) and torches (you start with one or they are almost free from vendors) worn items that act as lightsources are not too terribly rare in my experience, but there is no tagging on the items to show that they are, and virtually or entirely no documentation on what is or isn't a lightsource.
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WickedSlayer
Dalayan Adventurer
Recluso's mask
Well I suggest you look through the top 5 list for each of the 13 classes that are playable by Human and see how many times Human appears.
Or to save you the bother I can tell you it is just the once and there is not a single day that I play him that I do not bitterly regret that decision.
Still the choice is yours - it is just there is no going back.
Change it now before you have invested too much time is what I would strongly advise.
Or to save you the bother I can tell you it is just the once and there is not a single day that I play him that I do not bitterly regret that decision.
Still the choice is yours - it is just there is no going back.
Change it now before you have invested too much time is what I would strongly advise.
Rari
Game Master
Human and Humanoid are not the same thing. There are plenty of people on the top 5 who are blind as bats; you'll find several barbarian beastlords, erudite necromancers. Not to mention racials were different when the characters on that list were created (though blind is still blind.)
There are summoned/dropped items that act as lightsources (which can be equipped or kept in an open inv slot) as well as items that have worn effects or illusions. Some classes also have buffs to deal with vision (illusions, selfbuffs, and others.)
Maybe you can dig up something with worn Acumen? Keep in mind - there are a lot of spells/effects that have vision boosts.
The best options will depend on the class. I don't even notice it on my Necromancer, since she's usually Lich. And when she's not? Still not a big deal, and if it IS an issue, I can cast a vision spell, use an illusion clicky, or at worst summon a coldlight.
No matter what options you have available to start with, being blind shouldn't be the end of the road (or even half as big of a deal as Bridger is making it out to be.)
There are summoned/dropped items that act as lightsources (which can be equipped or kept in an open inv slot) as well as items that have worn effects or illusions. Some classes also have buffs to deal with vision (illusions, selfbuffs, and others.)
Maybe you can dig up something with worn Acumen? Keep in mind - there are a lot of spells/effects that have vision boosts.
The best options will depend on the class. I don't even notice it on my Necromancer, since she's usually Lich. And when she's not? Still not a big deal, and if it IS an issue, I can cast a vision spell, use an illusion clicky, or at worst summon a coldlight.
No matter what options you have available to start with, being blind shouldn't be the end of the road (or even half as big of a deal as Bridger is making it out to be.)
That's crazy... Just ask a friendly enchanter to give you a soul bound permanent illusion. Problem solved.. I would even do it myself for you if you pm me your character name and a time you are on. Or like the others have said, just get an item and then it's solved forever.
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Agreed
That is a massive overstatement.
Blind classes are 50% under-represented on a pro rata basis.
If it was a good choice they would be over-represented.
Well do me a favour and attach a list of all the T10/11 vision boosting caster items along with the list of vision boosting buffs a caster would want to use.
Unfortunately I cannot see any - perhaps because I am as blind as a bat!!
What is conspicuous by its absence in this debate is why anyone in their right senses would chose to become "blind".
Sure the game is still playable and there are various sticking plasters you can stick on the gaping wound but you will remain forever compromised.
You can play with your gamma screwed way up - I have written off 2 monitors that way.
You can play with buffs you would not otherwise want and deprive yourself of a useful buff.
You can play with vision enhancing items and deprive yourself of the slot for an item that would be useful.
Then these buffs always wear off at the most inconvenient moment and this is not to mention the pratts with raid wide change gender illusions perpetually overwriting your vision granting illusion.
So yes - you can play as blind as a bat character, but why should you.
The decision is not game breaking - it is simply **STUPID**
Kedrin
Dalayan Pious Diety
Boehm
Dalayan Elder
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