Bard dots

[Nodnal]

Is it possible to make the damage portion of bard dots stack with each other? The second, and sometimes third bard on raids really has his/her dps cut back a lot because of the stacking issue. I think the reason is because the resist debuff, but maybe there is another reason. This wouldn't really increase the power level of bards as an individual, but would make the versatility of the second/third bard a lot better in raids/groups.

Basically, the loss of relic dot cripples bard dps as it is a HUGE chunk of our dps. Having to sing other songs just for the resist debuff is kind of annoying.

 

[Marza]

I think too that it is because of the resist debuff given the fact that most other dots do not have stacking issues. However I agree that there isn't a whole lot of reason why these dots should not stack unless the issue is just not fixable.

 

[iaeolan]

Same thing happens with other class dots too as i recall due to the debuff. I remember a bunch of necro whining a long ass time ago and don't remember if it was changed or not but there's no more whining so it's a possibility.

Summation: I want it, too

 

[Cyzaine]

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Ya the Necromancer Scent line doesn't stack with the druid Tarhyl line because they both debuff fire, and Tarhyl's does it better. But Tarhyls doesn't touch poison or disease... so we never get that benefit. The stacking issue is entirely due to the resist debuff component, and I don't believe there is anyway around that. But not playing a bard, I don't know if simply removing that part would hurt gameplay in some way.
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[Nodnal]

Same thing happens with other class dots too as i recall due to the debuff. I remember a bunch of necro whining a long ass time ago and don't remember if it was changed or not but there's no more whining so it's a possibility.

Summation: I want it, too

Unless all the necros that play with me slack and don't cast Claws of the Chill, then Claws definitely stack nowadays.

 

[iaeolan]

But not playing a bard, I don't know if simply removing that part would hurt gameplay in some way.

It would, unfortunately. It's substantial and many other songs save ancient Mez will not stick on decent targets.

 

[Nodnal]

Yeah, if you mean removing the resist debuff, that would definitely affect gameplay.

 

[stickupkid]

isnt it possible to divide the songs into a damage and a debuff component makin it like 2 spells are casted at the same time if that is possible?

Some procs are 2 in 1 etc, but no idea if that actually would work for songs/spells too.

ADD: Also, arent there debuff limits? I mean you cant debuff a mob to the max i thought even if you stack debuffs en mass on it or is that wrong?

 

[Mythryn]

isnt it possible to divide the songs into a damage and a debuff component makin it like 2 spells are casted at the same time if that is possible?

Some procs are 2 in 1 etc, but no idea if that actually would work for songs/spells too.

ADD: Also, arent there debuff limits? I mean you cant debuff a mob to the max i thought even if you stack debuffs en mass on it or is that wrong?

AFAIK the way the spell engine handles autocasts of detrimental spells wouldn't really allow this to work. (A detrimental spell only autocasts another detrimental spell after it's worn off), but it'd be a good idea if it worked.