Are exp penalties that big of a deal?

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Kaibutsu

Dalayan Beginner
So I'm an Iksar necromancer. I figured the 2.5% penalty wasn't that big of a deal. But I have been seeing characters that have passed me level-wise, and are well into their AAs. True I haven't been leveling much lately, so that makes sense...but is the difference really that noticeable? Seems like 2.5% would be minimal enough, but does it really add up that much in the end with AAs and the like?
 
I dont see how it really would people would just be 2.5% faster lvl'ing and aa'ing. Doesnt Seem like a big deal to me really.


Lu-ass hasnt bitched about it as far as i know.

http://shardsofdalaya.com/fomelo/fomelo.php?char=luas

AA mathematical equation;

Time+nothing better to do+strive for the best=AA's

Me, Zhak, Zaira, Volkov, and quite a few others show my statement to be fact.
 
That's kind of what I figured too. My first character was a DE necro and I decided Iksar were much better in general with the regen and extra AA. Plus they just look cooler. So I deleted him and made the Iksar. I know I have much less downtime with the walking purse than any alts I have made...so maybe it balances out in the end.

That said, I know for a fact I'll never see any of that amazing gear all of those characters list off. I don't have the ability to spend huge amounts of time raiding. But it's fun to window shop all the cool gear you guys have. So thanks for the links and the response!
 
Pallish said:
Lu-ass hasnt bitched about it as far as i know.
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Hahaha you haven't been around Luas enough =P He bitches about it all the time (p.s. I'm still planning on having you AA an Iksar monk for me, Luas!)

To answer the original question, it does make a significant difference. I don't remember exact numbers, but Hasrett (Iksar, -2.5%) was roughly a level behind Hasritt (half elf, +2.5%) by the time I got Hasritt to 65, constantly grouped. Chances are that was tweaked one way or the other by deaths and whatnot, but there's definitely a substantial difference.

That said, it's not a deal-breaker. If you like being a suitcase, by all means, play an Iksar!
 
Pretty sure the penalties are applied to any and all xp. That being said, it really only seems to make a difference if you have another toon that you constantly level with (that isn't Iksar, of course - which it too bad, everyone should be Iksar ;)).

I've never really run into any problem with the penalty - especially as it's only there to compensate for the extra regen.

Sst
 
it really shouldn't mater that much, unless you are playing with humans
and who would want to do that :haw:
 
Hasrett said:
Hahaha you haven't been around Luas enough =P He bitches about it all the time (p.s. I'm still planning on having you AA an Iksar monk for me, Luas!)

To answer the original question, it does make a significant difference. I don't remember exact numbers, but Hasrett (Iksar, -2.5%) was roughly a level behind Hasritt (half elf, +2.5%) by the time I got Hasritt to 65, constantly grouped. Chances are that was tweaked one way or the other by deaths and whatnot, but there's definitely a substantial difference.

That said, it's not a deal-breaker. If you like being a suitcase, by all means, play an Iksar!
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I wouldn't call ONE level difference by the time you're 65 "substantial".
 
Allielyn said:
I wouldn't call ONE level difference by the time you're 65 "substantial".
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Tell that to the people who show up in OOC every other day talking about how much level 64 sucks =P

Like I said, it's not huge, and it's not a deal breaker.... but by the same token, it's also not insignificant. Leaving... well... significant =P
 
Allielyn said:
I wouldn't call ONE level difference by the time you're 65 "substantial".
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eh. i would.

i gained all of level 65 in 1 day, about 18 hours of solid levelling. I didn't sleep, and i was up with sevrenth 2boxing the whole time. I then got 5 AAs in the next 3 hours.

So... just by that math, (which i'm totally sure is skewed and half-innacurate), that means in the time it took him to get from 1-64 (and his buddy 1-65), if he was grinding AAs that whole time, that'd be about 30AAs difference. Yeah, the first 50 AAs are easy, but.... I'd certainly be annoyed at that.

So, "significant"? well.
 
Anyway, I think we all agree on the end result of the exp modifier, whether or not we agree on what makes a mod significant. Hopefully that's of some help to the OP.
 
Hasrett said:
Hahaha you haven't been around Luas enough =P He bitches about it all the time (p.s. I'm still planning on having you AA an Iksar monk for me, Luas!)
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Gono is probably the person in the game I've spent most time with group-wise. Some Revelations might come close.


Hasrett said:
AFAIK racial exp penalties apply to all exp earned. Except maybe quest exp?
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All earned XP count towards XP gained as far as I can tell. It simply takes more XP to fill your XP bar then others. When duoing HK with Balthor the XPgain is roughly the same for both toons while Balthor gets them slightly less with almost 150 more. There is your answer - it affects XP-gain but not to the point that it could ruin anything. Just takes a bit longer.
 
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