AMD Turion vs Intel Core 2

antihelei said:
uh no you cant OC a intel dual core 40% with the oem fan at all, you need at least a nice big heatsink for that. think about it, the 2920 mhz e6600 + 40% = 4088 mhz which is higher than an e6600 can even go with air cooling and is bordering on the water/phase change line
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Toms got ~45% with the e6400 and stock cooler: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/10/10/cheap_thrills/page3.html
Now granted they used top of the line everything expect hs/fan so most of us would get the 30-40 range. Luck of draw on processor can make a difference to.
The numbers people have gotten out of these things are staggering. I THINK toms got one to 80-85% (postable) using watercooling.
 
Kirin Folken said:
My computer is working when I mean never really recovered, its clearly not working as well as it once did. Even useing the recovery disk and cleaning out everything the computer itself runs sluggish now. Some people have told me that most likly there is perment damage to the harddrive and possiblity the motherboard chips.
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At least it's a good excuse for a new computer :)
 
the dual cores are retarded when it comes to the high oc's with heavy cooling, ive seen phase plate 6600's in the 4.6-4.8 range running completely cool
 
Yeah Intel had another CPU called the Celeron A back in the day that would OC to massive amounts...and then they shitcanned it because it hurt their higher end sales. Back then they weren't as worried about AMD.

Remember Intel locking the CPU's so you couldn't OC them?

The only reason you see any sort of improvement out of Intel is because of them needing to trump AMD.
 
Go intel and you can never go wrong I just got a core 2 and i can multtask soooo much better.
One of my friends has a AMD athlon X2 3dnow and it cant overclock for crap and multitasking sucks on his comp.
 
Kirin Folken said:
So is this generaly how they match up? The other big thing I heard was Intel is still running 32 bit vs AMD 64 bit. However most games are still useing coding that optimized for 32 bit running and hasn't realy pushed into the 64 bit running yet.
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I would (and did) go with the Intel Core2Duo. It's generally better and is also 64-bit (the regular Core Duo is 32-bit, but the Core2 is 64).
 
jeese louise... so much misinformation in here. intel processors have had 64-bit extensions (copied from amd) since the later half of the p4, there was no "core duo" they've always been core2, because "core" is IBM. tomshardware is the LAST place you wanna look for reviews, they've got such a gigantic intel bias, they intentionally "tweaked" their A64 vs P4 "challenge" and caused a huge fiasco. that said, presently Intel processors ARE better, but they hadn't been for almost 7 years. AMD is also going to try to win back the crown with Phenom, but I doubt they'll keep it long, when they aced Intel with the Athlon's, they woke the behemoth.

all that said, If I were on the market for a laptop, i'd get an Athlon X2 mobile based one with an ATI graphics chip. That combo on a laptop has always served me well. on a desktop, however, i'd get the best core2 duo i could afford and an nvidia 7950 GT or GX2. i wouldn't mess with the 8900 yet, nor would i mess with ATI's DX10 card yet... they've still got far too many bugs.
 
I would say right now that it is best if you are looking for a laptop to go with whatever you want. The main reason being is on a laptop power consumption is important. The leadership changes all the time. I would have to say most people on here tend to be biased right now. Right now intel is in the lead, but it can change all the time. I would go with whatever is the best you can get in your budget. I do not recommend using a laptop as a primary gaming machine. It just does not work well. You pay a lot extra for the parts are are still seriously handicapped in terms of speed on alot of things. For instance you always have slower hdd's in a laptop and the video cards are seriously throttled down to stop heat issues. If you have to buy one I would say that in the laptop sector both choices are about equal, The Turions are decent processors and stand up well compared to the core2 on the laptops. I have to strongly recommend against the laptop for gaming though. It is not that it is not capable, but that it just is harder on a laptop to game with. You will tend to wear out the laptop parts faster and they can not be easily replaced like a single pc part.
 
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