Malleus2
Dalayan Elder
It was announced a while back that Maimai was going to be taking on the responsibility of tweaking alchemy. I know that the real Maimai no longer graces us with his presence, but when you do get around to assigning a new alchemy czar I have some suggestions and requests.
Unless I’m totally missing something, once you get Body by Rekaj trivial at 245 that’s it; you’re done. After having spent a ton of time and money doing the 1500 mystic ash + alcoholic broth combines to get to 245 merely being able to make BbR without failure is a small reward. As you near halfway to trivial it fails infrequently enough to serve you fine if you are trying to make potions for your tanks or a bit of cash. As most alchemists I’ve discussed it with will tell you, there is not a lot of profit in alchemy. The potions that do sell well are achievable at lower skill levels. And unless there’s a secret “Don’t buy from Malleus” club you would think Id have sold the most Rekaj of any alchemist considering my forum ad campaign, lowest price (by a large margin) and nightly /auctions of my wares. Assuming that’s the case the Rekaj market is a bust. Ive had 10+ 10 dose on my vendor for 2 weeks of new ad etc and sold 1. I did 4 stacks of combines for one other person and gave a bunch to my guilds tanks. Still they move so slowly I have amassed over 100 mystic ash waiting for a need to make more for my vendor.
Im not looking for Alchemy to be hugely profitable Id just like there to be a reason to work the skill up other than the last potion being trivial. Dont get me wrong, alchemy as a skill has great utility. It would be nice if spending the time to be the best you can at something meant you could obtain a greater level of utility. All that said Id like to request that alchemy be finished to the rank of grand master. With that title I would like to see the ability to make 50 dose potions as mentioned here:
To reduce the amount of potions to be created Id suggest only making the top level of any type of potion be combinable into the 50 dose. The large vial resists, greater stats, superior mana and health, named potions and the one offs like gate would be less than half of the total number of items to create.
Now on to how to get alchemists to 250
Due to the fact that every time fixing the resist all potion is mentioned there is little response from the staff I get the impression its not a popular with the devs so I have several other suggestions that wouldn’t add overly to anyone’s capability but would add a great degree of convenience.
The first two options I would want to see implemented simultaneously.
Niklothar’s Elixir – 45-50 PR and DR. Like the Greater Resist potions it is derived from it stacks with Talisman of Niklothar. The only time I’ve used the 10 dose PR I pack around with me is as a junk buff when I’m feeling lazy. This saves you a bag slot and keeps you covered the very rare time you need a little extra PR. Recipe something like: 2 nightshade, 2 mullein, 1 alkaloid suspension, 1 item with drop rate and site similar to mystic ash.
Elixir of the Seasons – 45-50 FR and CR. Like the Greater Resist potions it is derived from it stacks with Shroud of Seasons. How many encounters do you need both FR and CR at the same time? Rare if ever people are going to gain anything more than a freed up bag slot from this 2-in-1 buff. Additionally as a top end potion its not going to be in wide spread use. Recipe something like: 2 allspice, 2 benzoin, 1 alkaloid suspension, 1 same dropped item as Niklothar’s Essence.
Alternately if you did want to add an improvement due to higher difficulty a version of Rekaj with 20 to 30AC thereby saving tanks a buff slot. I favour this less as only tanks will really make use of this. Additionally I could see it starting at a higher skill level and not being trivial at 250(though potentially trivial if alchemy gets tradeskill modifying items). Recipe something like: 1 mystic ash, 1 alcoholic broth, 1 rockweed, 1 additional item of a suitable difficulty to obtain (tho I pray not near as much work as farming ash)
As a third option a gate potion that would take the user to the Mansion of Portals. This gets you to MoP one zone quicker than anyone with city click neck or any caster bound in a city. Recipe something like: 1 item with appropriate drop rate, 1 alkaloid solvent (same as gate and helps keep the cost down as it is more likely to sell to lower level players who haven’t gotten gate necks)
Finally, Im sure with all the talented people you have on staff there are some great ideas to fill this gap.
As far the time to code the 50 dose recipes and items I offer my services. I work as a network technician and have done scripting in a network environment. I also had courses in object oriented programming with Javascript in my schooling. If you decide on a what you want to see implemented in that gap and have someone give me an example of how its coded and the values you want used I’m sure I can bang out the items for you. If my meager skills are inadequate or you see my doing the work as conflict of interest as Im driving this initiative I volunteer Woldaff. I will compensate him by catching a ferry over to where he lives and buying him a few beers.
Im sure others will have much to contribute here...
Thankyou for your time.
Unless I’m totally missing something, once you get Body by Rekaj trivial at 245 that’s it; you’re done. After having spent a ton of time and money doing the 1500 mystic ash + alcoholic broth combines to get to 245 merely being able to make BbR without failure is a small reward. As you near halfway to trivial it fails infrequently enough to serve you fine if you are trying to make potions for your tanks or a bit of cash. As most alchemists I’ve discussed it with will tell you, there is not a lot of profit in alchemy. The potions that do sell well are achievable at lower skill levels. And unless there’s a secret “Don’t buy from Malleus” club you would think Id have sold the most Rekaj of any alchemist considering my forum ad campaign, lowest price (by a large margin) and nightly /auctions of my wares. Assuming that’s the case the Rekaj market is a bust. Ive had 10+ 10 dose on my vendor for 2 weeks of new ad etc and sold 1. I did 4 stacks of combines for one other person and gave a bunch to my guilds tanks. Still they move so slowly I have amassed over 100 mystic ash waiting for a need to make more for my vendor.
Im not looking for Alchemy to be hugely profitable Id just like there to be a reason to work the skill up other than the last potion being trivial. Dont get me wrong, alchemy as a skill has great utility. It would be nice if spending the time to be the best you can at something meant you could obtain a greater level of utility. All that said Id like to request that alchemy be finished to the rank of grand master. With that title I would like to see the ability to make 50 dose potions as mentioned here:
Wiz said:
To reduce the amount of potions to be created Id suggest only making the top level of any type of potion be combinable into the 50 dose. The large vial resists, greater stats, superior mana and health, named potions and the one offs like gate would be less than half of the total number of items to create.
Now on to how to get alchemists to 250
Due to the fact that every time fixing the resist all potion is mentioned there is little response from the staff I get the impression its not a popular with the devs so I have several other suggestions that wouldn’t add overly to anyone’s capability but would add a great degree of convenience.
The first two options I would want to see implemented simultaneously.
Niklothar’s Elixir – 45-50 PR and DR. Like the Greater Resist potions it is derived from it stacks with Talisman of Niklothar. The only time I’ve used the 10 dose PR I pack around with me is as a junk buff when I’m feeling lazy. This saves you a bag slot and keeps you covered the very rare time you need a little extra PR. Recipe something like: 2 nightshade, 2 mullein, 1 alkaloid suspension, 1 item with drop rate and site similar to mystic ash.
Elixir of the Seasons – 45-50 FR and CR. Like the Greater Resist potions it is derived from it stacks with Shroud of Seasons. How many encounters do you need both FR and CR at the same time? Rare if ever people are going to gain anything more than a freed up bag slot from this 2-in-1 buff. Additionally as a top end potion its not going to be in wide spread use. Recipe something like: 2 allspice, 2 benzoin, 1 alkaloid suspension, 1 same dropped item as Niklothar’s Essence.
Alternately if you did want to add an improvement due to higher difficulty a version of Rekaj with 20 to 30AC thereby saving tanks a buff slot. I favour this less as only tanks will really make use of this. Additionally I could see it starting at a higher skill level and not being trivial at 250(though potentially trivial if alchemy gets tradeskill modifying items). Recipe something like: 1 mystic ash, 1 alcoholic broth, 1 rockweed, 1 additional item of a suitable difficulty to obtain (tho I pray not near as much work as farming ash)
As a third option a gate potion that would take the user to the Mansion of Portals. This gets you to MoP one zone quicker than anyone with city click neck or any caster bound in a city. Recipe something like: 1 item with appropriate drop rate, 1 alkaloid solvent (same as gate and helps keep the cost down as it is more likely to sell to lower level players who haven’t gotten gate necks)
Finally, Im sure with all the talented people you have on staff there are some great ideas to fill this gap.
As far the time to code the 50 dose recipes and items I offer my services. I work as a network technician and have done scripting in a network environment. I also had courses in object oriented programming with Javascript in my schooling. If you decide on a what you want to see implemented in that gap and have someone give me an example of how its coded and the values you want used I’m sure I can bang out the items for you. If my meager skills are inadequate or you see my doing the work as conflict of interest as Im driving this initiative I volunteer Woldaff. I will compensate him by catching a ferry over to where he lives and buying him a few beers.
Im sure others will have much to contribute here...
Thankyou for your time.
