A replacement Zone for 1st Ruins

jimmyturk

jimmyturk

Dalayan Beginner
Perhaps The mines which were closed on Feb 11? The choices for soloing/grouping at level 33 is very low in comparision to any other level in the game, IMO. This needs to be corrected. In addition Nerfing Kaladim loot was extreme...perhaps something of more value than 4 gold in the zone (comparible to soft leather in Warrens and Yarlith?) would make it worth while considering it has no dungeon bonus either.

I personally feel I have hit this game at the wrong time as I am told of good loot in Kaladim to find it nerfed from 11 pp (shields) to 2 gold...and then I am worked up to solo in 1st ruins to walk in the next day and find it full of level 65's.

You want to tone down the money...why not make the zone values better as you get higher in level because it seems you can make more money for upgrades at level 18 than you can at 33. You can also get a zone with more consident pulls both grouping and soloing at 18 than you can at 33. Hope this is a work in progress.
 
West Badlands, Paw, North Sundered Mountains, Oasis, Cauldron of Dawn, Spectres in Various Zones, South Badlands, Shrouded Ilse King's Pass, Heartland... probably others that I cannot recall off the top of my head. OSM Maybe?

Kaladim has a large number of named with decent loot even for above the level. Several 65s still use the Bracer of the Champion.
 
Oh gosh, at level 33 you can't beat Highpass, and it's great exp from 31-40. Hands Down the best that I've seen. There are lots of places to hunt at 33, as Moghe just indicated.

Wait till you get to 43, then come tell us you don't have many choices of hunting grounds. I might be more inclined to beleive you, then.
 
Allielyn said:
Oh gosh, at level 33 you can't beat Highpass, and it's great exp from 31-40. Hands Down the best that I've seen. There are lots of places to hunt at 33, as Moghe just indicated.

Wait till you get to 43, then come tell us you don't have many choices of hunting grounds. I might be more inclined to beleive you, then.
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I think she means King's pass, which is good until about 37 or 38, then it starts to get slow. I would goto heartlands after that to solo, because you can get easy single pulls at the robots.
 
The level 65s you saw in First Ruins were likely exping deep in the zone. It supports exp from 30ish to 65 unless it has recently been changed.
 
west,south, east badlands, cauldren of dawn ect. is very wide open and exp is slow ( not many players to group with), paw is still above me unless i get a group which is not very available, North sundered is low on quantity of mobs for my level form what i have seen...fact is nerfing kaladim, taking out the mines months ago, and now giving away 1st ruins to 65's hurts anyway you slice it.
Naming sparce camps with 4 mobs on it as places to group and solo is not a replacement or a solution to what I am pointing out.You know the zone I am talking about decent PP loot drops/ exp bonus dungeon with close range mobs... IN Live there was Overthere, Frontier Mountains & a few Luclin/other areas which mobs would cross you for faster pulls and groups to cover.
I cant comment on what 43 does for someone here bc i only exp. that about 9 times on Live and from what I can see its lacking here at 33 and PP income for normal grouping has become harder than it was at 18. I cant explain it any simpler than that.
 
Wait... Paw is bad because you have to group, the BadLands are bad because you have to solo? Explain that one, but I am thinking shenanigins.

EBL is EXACTLY like OT and FM. Did you try the Gorge of the One eye... young Cyclops?

The Gargoyles in OSM spawn fast enough to be solo XP.

North Sunderwed and Oasis, I did not recall the exact levels, if you missed them your loss.

Cauldron of Dawn is loaded with 30s goblins.

King's Pass constantly offering groups to low 30s. But I suggest staying away from it. Part of a fairly important quest uses the zone... you would probably die and whine.

Shoruded Isle is right next to FR, and it has an entire second floor for you.

You cannot POSSIBLY be saying that Heartland is not crawling with mobs for you kill solo or group.

At level 18, you were getting silver pieces when you were lucky. If you got more than that, then you found something akin to the Shields and it will be corrected. You will be terminally poor for most of your Dalayan life. It does nto magically get better at any level, even 65. If you want to make money, take up tradeskilling.

Please explain to me what FR has to do with level 33? You went to FR from 20 to 24 and back in your mid 50s for some quest stuff. I knew a couple who soloed their at 60, and that was it... the zone sucked for xp.

Did you ever actually GO to Bancak? No... No one went to Bancak. When you went to Bancak you knew, for a fact, that all it took to achieve absolute solitude was to close the chat window. SOmetimes, you could pull a group into Bancak, they could clear to the first room and declare the xp was lousy and so were the drops. And then the group broke up and everyone ran to Paw.

Doing it nine times on live means dick here.

Your arguements make no sense. I cannot explain it any simpler than that.
 
moghedancarns said:
Did you ever actually GO to Bancak?  No... No one went to Bancak.  When you went to Bancak you knew, for a fact, that all it took to achieve absolute solitude was to close the chat window.  SOmetimes, you could pull a group into Bancak, they could clear to the first room and declare the xp was lousy and so were the drops.  And then the group broke up and everyone ran to Paw.
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Did you play for any of the months before Bancak blew up? There were constantly groups there, and I leveled a rogue from 20-30 in one night there, and leveled my necro there in the mid 20s and up to about 40 on the panda bear looking things.

That place was awesome, and anyone who thought the xp there was bad is pretty dumb, it was a natural progression from warrens and delivered the goods
 
The Skulker's armor with their mods were nice upgrades for useable classes still wearing soft leather and sometimes wore into the 60s. Are there any other dungeon armor set with similar mods? The Lasanth mutant flesh armor or other sets could use such mod to extend their usefulness.
 
Warpstone drops skulker's armor, and is pretty much exactly the zone you're looking for. Inside the castle, the mobs are red and yellow to mid 20s, so by the time you hit low 30s, they're still quite blue. They drop some gems and items that can sell for a decent amount.
 
Damn, rab beat me to mentioning warpstones. Warpstones has a good range, and a few unique advantages. For starters, isn't KoS, untill you lose faction. Warpstones loot is actually DECENT, even the one comming from shitty nameds. Has a fast spawn, a couple safish points, areas separated by mob levels... and a damned boss that cons l blue at 65.

Range level there goes from 20 to 45-50. Has a "city" close, and a portal quite close too. Never checked, but I'm sure it's minable, too. You get to farm furs for augments, you get some money (good money at that level), and, if done carefully, there're no trains.

It's currently underused. Just thinking about it, can safely support 4 groups same time, without any group interfering with each other, an, so far, only saw 2 groups same time there once, and both groups were twinkies. For those not knowing where's this fabulous zone, it's off from Sundered mountains, which is accesible either from portal systems, or from oasis's docks. Oh, and INSIDE castle, mobs are more like 30-40... think rab was refering to elders and such, which turn blue around 29 or 30... You go deeper (finding how) and you get to those winged creatures.... just don't try to solo them as a caster.
 
antihelei said:
Did you play for any of the months before Bancak blew up? There were constantly groups there, and I leveled a rogue from 20-30 in one night there, and leveled my necro there in the mid 20s and up to about 40 on the panda bear looking things.

That place was awesome, and anyone who thought the xp there was bad is pretty dumb, it was a natural progression from warrens and delivered the goods
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Thank you. Funny how I offer a suggestion to the game as it says and there is always someone who has to go to insulting and trying to prove they are the master of the game. If you think EBL is just like Overthere...I wont bother trying to debate you no it because you couldnt be more wrong...and its not the topic of thiis thread.
 
rab said:
Warpstone drops skulker's armor, and is pretty much exactly the zone you're looking for.  Inside the castle, the mobs are red and yellow to mid 20s, so by the time you hit low 30s, they're still quite blue.  They drop some gems and items that can sell for a decent amount.
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Thanks I will try it out.
 
shanara99 said:
Damn, rab beat me to mentioning warpstones. Warpstones has a good range, and a few unique advantages. For starters, isn't KoS, untill you lose faction. Warpstones loot is actually DECENT, even the one comming from shitty nameds. Has a fast spawn, a couple safish points, areas separated by mob levels... and a damned boss that cons l blue at 65.

Range level there goes from 20 to 45-50. Has a "city" close, and a portal quite close too. Never checked, but I'm sure it's minable, too. You get to farm furs for augments, you get some money (good money at that level), and, if done carefully, there're no trains.

It's currently underused. Just thinking about it, can safely support 4 groups same time, without any group interfering with each other, an, so far, only saw 2 groups same time there once, and both groups were twinkies. For those not knowing where's this fabulous zone, it's off from Sundered mountains, which is accesible either from portal systems, or from oasis's docks. Oh, and INSIDE castle, mobs are more like 30-40... think rab was refering to elders and such, which turn blue around 29 or 30... You go deeper (finding how) and you get to those winged creatures.... just don't try to solo them as a caster.
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will defenitly check it out but i still hope for the return of the mines...positionaly on the maps it was in a perfect place.
 
To whomever said that Bancak was never used, your memory if pretty fusy I'd say.


I grouped AND solo'd there religiously. It was a fun zone, good exp, great progression, and the loot didnt necessarily suck. (Rez silk anyone?)
 
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