Why not let people 3 box?
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What's the point of being on an online game if you are gonna just play by yourself? As it is 2 boxing makes the game too easy and also is part of the reason there are not as many groups available, and the majority hit end game too fast. I realize there are folks that log on and don't have the time to find a group, get to it, and wait for all to be ready to begin. But if you don't have the time to dedicate to that, then you shouldn't expect to advance very quickly. Being able to drag a bot is just a crutch, and it was a much needed one back when the server had at most 75/100 folks on during prime time. But now, really, it's a become a necessary evil.
I realize I'm gonna get flamed and hear blah, blah, blah, there are folks that can box such and such better than some can solo them. Which is great and all, then those folks shouldn't have much trouble getting to the end game as the guy that has a tough time playing one box.
Like I said, it's a necessary evil. Even though I don't box, myself, I do count on others that do in order to group and raid. Eventually though, by recruiting; the server will have enough folks on it where even 2 boxing shouldn't be allowed. And where the population isn't full of 80% of the folks being at the end game. But the way it is now, with the majority of the server at 65, being less than that level is difficult to make groups, especially from like 35 on when those that were not really interested, just stop playing. But I don't think allowing even more boting to go on will solve the problem. If anything, it would make it worse.
I realize I'm gonna get flamed and hear blah, blah, blah, there are folks that can box such and such better than some can solo them. Which is great and all, then those folks shouldn't have much trouble getting to the end game as the guy that has a tough time playing one box.
Like I said, it's a necessary evil. Even though I don't box, myself, I do count on others that do in order to group and raid. Eventually though, by recruiting; the server will have enough folks on it where even 2 boxing shouldn't be allowed. And where the population isn't full of 80% of the folks being at the end game. But the way it is now, with the majority of the server at 65, being less than that level is difficult to make groups, especially from like 35 on when those that were not really interested, just stop playing. But I don't think allowing even more boting to go on will solve the problem. If anything, it would make it worse.
gorgetrapper
Dalayan Beginner
I'm already on the verge of quitting again due to the fact that no matter what character I am on, I can't get a group as is. Now, allowing people to log on to more accounts than 2, which I honestly believe people do anyway, would make it even worse than it already is.
Then again, if I could log on more than just 2 characters, I wouldn't have to worry about getting groups anymore either because I could put a tank, DPS and a healer in the group and not have to worry anymore about sitting LFG for nearly 4 hours with no reply.
Either way... grouping on this server sucks unless you're 65 with a shit-ton of AAs... or in a decent guild.
Then again, if I could log on more than just 2 characters, I wouldn't have to worry about getting groups anymore either because I could put a tank, DPS and a healer in the group and not have to worry anymore about sitting LFG for nearly 4 hours with no reply.
Either way... grouping on this server sucks unless you're 65 with a shit-ton of AAs... or in a decent guild.
shebearcub
Dalayan Beginner
I can't count the number of times when I'm paying attention to ooc - which is rarely that clusters of LFG come up within a few minutes of each other. I'll conceed that lots of times they're 65's but not always. Everyone gets on here and complains about not finding a group...
use /who all and create your own.
Make yourself a druid or a necro you can get on and solo with and chat with your friends when you can't put a group together.
Take up a tradeskill, farm items or cash, farm items for tradeskills.
Do a quest, or help someone else do a quest.
Go help a new player, grab some random item out of your bank and find someone to give it to. Bascily I guess I'm saying you'll be accepted in this community as much as you put back into it; and that will in fact affect your grouping overall.
use /who all and create your own.
Make yourself a druid or a necro you can get on and solo with and chat with your friends when you can't put a group together.
Take up a tradeskill, farm items or cash, farm items for tradeskills.
Do a quest, or help someone else do a quest.
Go help a new player, grab some random item out of your bank and find someone to give it to. Bascily I guess I'm saying you'll be accepted in this community as much as you put back into it; and that will in fact affect your grouping overall.
gorgetrapper
Dalayan Beginner
As much as I'd like to go SOLO, which is the whole problem I have with this game, no. I want to group with people, and when you only have 6-10 people on in your level range who are already 2boxing with themselves, AFK, or "just logging off". It's rather difficult to get a group going. Don't act as if that's the solution to the grouping problem, because it's not.
Hmm... farming items or cash... kind of hard to do when you're just a rogue in the 40s, I'm not some high 65 with hundreds of AAs or can easily solo the lower level zones for loot and cash.
A lot of quests sometimes require groups to do.
I've already given out a lot of my older shit to newer players, I'm all out of things to give.
Hmm... farming items or cash... kind of hard to do when you're just a rogue in the 40s, I'm not some high 65 with hundreds of AAs or can easily solo the lower level zones for loot and cash.
A lot of quests sometimes require groups to do.
I've already given out a lot of my older shit to newer players, I'm all out of things to give.
luciferblack
Dalayan Elder
Saying that 2 boxing hurts the ability to find groups is retarded. You honestly believe it's harder to find a group if you have a melee and healer or two other characters paired up together already? They get the same exp regardless of how many more people they add, so it makes sense to add as many as possible.
I ALWAYS look to fill up a group when I box two characters.
The ONLY time I don't is when I'm just getting very little exp and mostly farming cash or working on a quest.
Anyone who is looking for groups in the 30's (and soon to be 40's) look for these people online:
Rexo 38 Rogue
Burton 36 Bard
Branhunde 36 Paladin
Dasrande 40 Druid
That's our group usually with at least 2 spots open for others. We LOOK for people to add every time we're on as well. So actively look for people instead of waiting for something to happen for you.
/who all 30 39 that will show you everyone between 30 and 39 online. Do that for whatever levels you want.
There's a lot of people out there who could be grouping up. Just gotta find them.
I ALWAYS look to fill up a group when I box two characters.
The ONLY time I don't is when I'm just getting very little exp and mostly farming cash or working on a quest.
Anyone who is looking for groups in the 30's (and soon to be 40's) look for these people online:
Rexo 38 Rogue
Burton 36 Bard
Branhunde 36 Paladin
Dasrande 40 Druid
That's our group usually with at least 2 spots open for others. We LOOK for people to add every time we're on as well. So actively look for people instead of waiting for something to happen for you.
/who all 30 39 that will show you everyone between 30 and 39 online. Do that for whatever levels you want.
There's a lot of people out there who could be grouping up. Just gotta find them.
X
xardas
Guest
Not as retarded as you are obviously sure, there are people out there who 2box because they are "2box soloer's",
like on live they have their habits, they prefer to stay alone, yes you get the same xp but you don't get the same
loot, as you have to share it.
Perhraps YOU are not like that, but there are people like that who prefer to do their lifes alone, i myself played
a warrior and i am the kind of guy who send direct tells to people to group, some like it, some do not, anyway
i don't care i don't feel like waiting 1 hour to group.
And i happened to send tell to people and received the reply "Sorry i am 2 boxing"...they 2 box, they gain good xp,
good loot (at least i hope for them), nothing stressing, they have their habits...and also i would tell for a social "reason"
we are all differents, we have all our own behaviors, selfish - altruist...bla bla bla...and sometimes grouping can really
become a "Battle inside the group"...for different opinions...people who wants to have the last word, people who
think they can teach others (and i am the kind of guy who REALLY HATE that)
"Man, i've got a lvl 65 on this server so i am telling you, you don't know your job"...
also people who take the game seriously and don't like to group until lvl 60 where they think they will group with people
who knows their job, people who take it too much easy...ninja looters...(i even seen a monk doing it...lol must have been the
only monk on the server weighting 125 pounds :haw
So for all these reasons, i can tell you that sometimes you really prefer to stay alone...and then you come back to group
once you're sick of soloing ;-)
Myself i did 2boxing and it happened to me to refuse "politely" someone, and he/she understood totally i needed
my soloing hour.
So of course...soloing in a Mmorpg is pretty "dumb"...cause if it's to solo only...i launch "The Bard's Tale" (1988) and
i will kill monsters and harvest loots...and i will think i am the king of the world...bla bla bla :toot:
but as someone said above...if you're not lvl 65 it's hard to group here...i don't totally agree...but i also can't disagree
cause as far as i have played here (up to lvl 48 on my cleric)...i really had a hard time finding non lvl 65 groups...from
time to time i was lucky to find or 1 or 2 peeps non lvl 65...
it's why i decided to PL my beastlord and then i had the possibility to go 2box in dungeons...better than nothing...
so after this first experience on dalaya, i am one of many people who are waiting patiently for a new server
brasileira
Dalayan Elder
1st - Is almost impossible to 3box on same computer, you would drive insane with Alt+Tabing
2nd - The group thing, just creat a tank, dps and a healer and you become alone.
ps: if you dont find a group is because you not searching it right.
I always manage to get a group. Nwo that im 2 boxing, is really easier
I just made friends that log on same time as i do an try to group with them. Or just go 1 by 1, go to a Xp Zone, do /w all lfg an invite em. Or if there is no-one lfg, do what i always do /w all 65 (or your lvl) and ask the most interesting class/level/person to join you... Many many people im almost sure got a message from me asking if they wanted to join my group.
2nd - The group thing, just creat a tank, dps and a healer and you become alone.
ps: if you dont find a group is because you not searching it right.
I always manage to get a group. Nwo that im 2 boxing, is really easier
I just made friends that log on same time as i do an try to group with them. Or just go 1 by 1, go to a Xp Zone, do /w all lfg an invite em. Or if there is no-one lfg, do what i always do /w all 65 (or your lvl) and ask the most interesting class/level/person to join you... Many many people im almost sure got a message from me asking if they wanted to join my group.
luciferblack
Dalayan Elder
Okay, so maybe my first reply started out harsh, but the rest still stands. Matter of fact, last night I took my rogue and bard to paw to duo there because I needed quest items for newport ring 3.
I got a tell from a ranger (who I initially met a week or two ago after I found his corpse in N. Badlands and sent him a tell asking him if he wanted a rez from my shaman). He asked what I was up to and I told him my plan. He asked to come along because he wanted to practice his weapon skills. No harm in that for me. Even if he's not doing massive dps due to practicing his skills, I invited him anyway.
Turns out it was a good plan anyway, because a few times when the bard mez failed, the ranger rooted mobs and ghetto cc'd.
Yes there are people who prefer to play alone, but I think most of the time if people see someone in their level range who is 2 boxing, the 2 boxer will almost always let them join.
If I really want a group bad enough and a 2 boxer is hesitant to let me join because they're farming or some such, I offer to not loot. The way I see it is that if they don't let me join, I'm not going to be getting loot anyway, so at least I might as well get exp.
PS - The ranger's name is Vanlos. He's level 34 and he's a good guy who knows what he's doing. So give him a group if you see him and you're in his level range.
Matter of fact, last night I took my rogue and bard to paw to duo there because I needed quest items for newport ring 3. I got a tell from a ranger (who I initially met a week or two ago after I found his corpse in N. Badlands and sent him a tell asking him if he wanted a rez from my shaman). He asked what I was up to and I told him my plan. He asked to come along because he wanted to practice his weapon skills. No harm in that for me. Even if he's not doing massive dps due to practicing his skills, I invited him anyway.
Turns out it was a good plan anyway, because a few times when the bard mez failed, the ranger rooted mobs and ghetto cc'd.
Yes there are people who prefer to play alone, but I think most of the time if people see someone in their level range who is 2 boxing, the 2 boxer will almost always let them join.
If I really want a group bad enough and a 2 boxer is hesitant to let me join because they're farming or some such, I offer to not loot. The way I see it is that if they don't let me join, I'm not going to be getting loot anyway, so at least I might as well get exp.
PS - The ranger's name is Vanlos. He's level 34 and he's a good guy who knows what he's doing.
So give him a group if you see him and you're in his level range.shebearcub
Dalayan Beginner
gorgetrapper said:
I'm not saying go solo your rogue, i'm saying create a character to mess around on that you can solo with WHILE you LFG for your rogue. You see it all the time, level 15 cleric, 34 druid, 65 pally, 24 mage LFG.
As for the rest, they're just some of the things *I* do when I'm not soloing, grouping or raiding. P.s. I'm not even 65 with hundreds of AA's.
Basicly without all the sugar coating and friendly suggestions, You can spend your time trying to make things better for yourself, guild, and the community with the time you spend here, or you can whine at people who aren't grouping for whatever reason, complain about policies that don't make things default to your way - and those people reading this are now are less likely to group even if they could because of your attitude.
I offered solutions that I try, and the way that I've established myself in this community and made friends I can almost always group with at any level if i'm not busy. If you want what I got then do what I did to get it.... if not then why not make a druid or a shaman and duo now when you can't find a group? Or just be unhappy and do as you said you would do soon, and quit. I'm not going to try to offer anymore suggestions, it's obviously only giving you something to argue about and stay unhappy with, take it anyway you want.
stope21
Dalayan Elder
I aswell 2 box, a war a clr. I personally have found it challenging to find groups, although like someone previously said, after about an hour I can get a group, even if that i just one or 2 people (making the total 3 or 4).
Someone suggested start a new char that you can solo on, or start a druid, shaman, or other class to duo with yourself:
Not everyone wants to start a new character, they want to develop the one they have now.
Not everyone wants to 2 box, because they enjoy focusing on one character
Not everyone can 2 box, they may have a slower computer, or lack the skill in doing it effectively.
I couldnt imagine what it would be like if I played just one character, trying to xp. I have a lot of respect for players that play only one character and I understand their reasons (although it would be beneficial for me if they dual boxed). Many times I group w/ just one other person, usually a rogue, sk, or ranger. If i only had a warrior, then we would have trouble with running out of HP on harder pulls and much longer or more frequent down times. If I had a cleric then we would run into not having enough DPS, or having the problem of running out of mana (rogue/ranger not best tanks, SK lacks dual weild). This for some this creates a problem, which I can truely see (I have been playing EQ since months after it was first released). Furthermore this problem is enhanced when playing a group dependent class such as rogue, warrior, cleric, monk, SK, etc. It could take will take a significantly greater amount of time for someone playing one of these classes solo then for me. Another way to think of it is if a 2 player group adds 1 more player they have increased their efficiency by over 75%, even though their group has only increased 50% in size! I would put this number at close to 2.5x or a 150% increase. This is for a couple reasons which I will not get into at this time. This makes it extremely beneficial to group.
At this point it comes down to the classic saying, "is the glass half full, or half empty."
-Some would consider this pessimistically, as they have to form a group, which is difficult to do with current server population, if they wish to recieve optimal/maximum experience.
-Others woud consider this a bonus to being able to find a group. A bonus for their effort to successfully form a group, and they can now gain experience at an extremely accelerated rate. I am a part of this category.
Although I am a part of the later catagorie, I tend to use certain tactics when I play. I usually don't xp/hunt when its just myself playing 2 characters. But the moment I find another person, 2 people, or another person 2 boxing, we rush to the spot and begin killing.
Now lets look at 3 boxing. If i was allowed to 3 box, I could play a monk, war, and a cleric. I would never need to find a group to recieve the minimum amount of experience I recieve now, and finding more players would give us even greater experience. This would alienate more casual players, and players that play single, or even 2 box, as I would never really be a long term group member for them. I would have the ability to reach lvl 65 within 2 weeks, and even if someone did group with me, a couple days later I would be out of their viable group level range (+/- about 6 or 7 levels). Although this would be great for me, it would be bad for more casual players. Furthermore like wiz previously said It would give me the ability to by myself take down certain mobs that were meant to be taken down by multiple people. Another issue would be if I found another person "tri-boxing," or if my roomate tri-boxed aswell, we would have a full group, we could play the ideal group classes (clr/war/monk + ench or shm + 2 dps) and never really have to even for a moment interact with the community around us until we reached levels where we wanted to raid. Once we reached this level we would become hot commodities as we could represent 1/3 of a raid, again diminishing community. A raid group could also at minimum consist of 6 people. 6*3=18. This is what a normal group on live consisted of. I personally think this would be a lot of fun, but I enjoy big multiple people raids aswell.
Ultimatly, imo, it comes down to the level of community, interaction, and ability that Wiz wishes to give us. I personally don't think it would damage these variables too substantially, as only about 50% of the players I run into 2 box (making the server population to number of actual people playing a 3:2 ratio or 1.5 characters for every player). I would guess that if tri boxing were allowed, that an even smaller fraction, of the already 50% of players that 2 box would pick up a third box (maybe 1/3 of people 2 boxing now 3 box ---variables include, computer being capable, player ability/player preference----), + people that single box that now choose to tri box (maybe 1/20 people who single box). Thus giving us a ratio of 3.43:2 or 1.71 character per player. This would be a 14% increase in server population, assuming my hypothesis was accurate. Is this 14% enough to throw off community/interaction, probably not, but it would make them less inclined to form a group of multiple people (not multiple characters). But this 14% could very easily change the dynamics of taking down certain mobs/dungeons etc. A mob that was intended to be taken down by the community, could be taken down by a single person. Furthermore, a mob that takes 5 or even 6 characters could be taken down by 2 or 3 people rather then 3+.
I personally greatly enjoy 2 boxing and would 3 box if it were allowed, but this isnt my sand box, and I can see logic behind the limit.
And for the person that said it is impossible to tri-box, it's not, I've done it on live. Basically you have to be able to completly control each character with the keyboard (don't touch mouse), and have keystrokes for each action memorized/hotkeyed and use a combonation if this. I will say that it does indeed disable you from playing each class to the fullest, but an exceptional tri-boxer can play 3 characters nearly seemlessly, even seemlessly with controlled pulls, which once you get to that stage of gaming, you can probably do 99% of the time.
Someone suggested start a new char that you can solo on, or start a druid, shaman, or other class to duo with yourself:
Not everyone wants to start a new character, they want to develop the one they have now.
Not everyone wants to 2 box, because they enjoy focusing on one character
Not everyone can 2 box, they may have a slower computer, or lack the skill in doing it effectively.
I couldnt imagine what it would be like if I played just one character, trying to xp. I have a lot of respect for players that play only one character and I understand their reasons (although it would be beneficial for me if they dual boxed). Many times I group w/ just one other person, usually a rogue, sk, or ranger. If i only had a warrior, then we would have trouble with running out of HP on harder pulls and much longer or more frequent down times. If I had a cleric then we would run into not having enough DPS, or having the problem of running out of mana (rogue/ranger not best tanks, SK lacks dual weild). This for some this creates a problem, which I can truely see (I have been playing EQ since months after it was first released). Furthermore this problem is enhanced when playing a group dependent class such as rogue, warrior, cleric, monk, SK, etc. It could take will take a significantly greater amount of time for someone playing one of these classes solo then for me. Another way to think of it is if a 2 player group adds 1 more player they have increased their efficiency by over 75%, even though their group has only increased 50% in size! I would put this number at close to 2.5x or a 150% increase. This is for a couple reasons which I will not get into at this time. This makes it extremely beneficial to group.
At this point it comes down to the classic saying, "is the glass half full, or half empty."
-Some would consider this pessimistically, as they have to form a group, which is difficult to do with current server population, if they wish to recieve optimal/maximum experience.
-Others woud consider this a bonus to being able to find a group. A bonus for their effort to successfully form a group, and they can now gain experience at an extremely accelerated rate. I am a part of this category.
Although I am a part of the later catagorie, I tend to use certain tactics when I play. I usually don't xp/hunt when its just myself playing 2 characters. But the moment I find another person, 2 people, or another person 2 boxing, we rush to the spot and begin killing.
Now lets look at 3 boxing. If i was allowed to 3 box, I could play a monk, war, and a cleric. I would never need to find a group to recieve the minimum amount of experience I recieve now, and finding more players would give us even greater experience. This would alienate more casual players, and players that play single, or even 2 box, as I would never really be a long term group member for them. I would have the ability to reach lvl 65 within 2 weeks, and even if someone did group with me, a couple days later I would be out of their viable group level range (+/- about 6 or 7 levels). Although this would be great for me, it would be bad for more casual players. Furthermore like wiz previously said It would give me the ability to by myself take down certain mobs that were meant to be taken down by multiple people. Another issue would be if I found another person "tri-boxing," or if my roomate tri-boxed aswell, we would have a full group, we could play the ideal group classes (clr/war/monk + ench or shm + 2 dps) and never really have to even for a moment interact with the community around us until we reached levels where we wanted to raid. Once we reached this level we would become hot commodities as we could represent 1/3 of a raid, again diminishing community. A raid group could also at minimum consist of 6 people. 6*3=18. This is what a normal group on live consisted of. I personally think this would be a lot of fun, but I enjoy big multiple people raids aswell.
Ultimatly, imo, it comes down to the level of community, interaction, and ability that Wiz wishes to give us. I personally don't think it would damage these variables too substantially, as only about 50% of the players I run into 2 box (making the server population to number of actual people playing a 3:2 ratio or 1.5 characters for every player). I would guess that if tri boxing were allowed, that an even smaller fraction, of the already 50% of players that 2 box would pick up a third box (maybe 1/3 of people 2 boxing now 3 box ---variables include, computer being capable, player ability/player preference----), + people that single box that now choose to tri box (maybe 1/20 people who single box). Thus giving us a ratio of 3.43:2 or 1.71 character per player. This would be a 14% increase in server population, assuming my hypothesis was accurate. Is this 14% enough to throw off community/interaction, probably not, but it would make them less inclined to form a group of multiple people (not multiple characters). But this 14% could very easily change the dynamics of taking down certain mobs/dungeons etc. A mob that was intended to be taken down by the community, could be taken down by a single person. Furthermore, a mob that takes 5 or even 6 characters could be taken down by 2 or 3 people rather then 3+.
I personally greatly enjoy 2 boxing and would 3 box if it were allowed, but this isnt my sand box, and I can see logic behind the limit.
And for the person that said it is impossible to tri-box, it's not, I've done it on live. Basically you have to be able to completly control each character with the keyboard (don't touch mouse), and have keystrokes for each action memorized/hotkeyed and use a combonation if this. I will say that it does indeed disable you from playing each class to the fullest, but an exceptional tri-boxer can play 3 characters nearly seemlessly, even seemlessly with controlled pulls, which once you get to that stage of gaming, you can probably do 99% of the time.
DumbSnowman
Dalayan Beginner
I dunno, I think allowing it would be good for the late night gamers like me. I usually play some time between 11pm-3am EST when the server gets down to about 120 or less people. I would take a guess that maybe 30 of those are below their late 50's, thus making grouping nearly impossible for me save the times a friend is on. At the same time I think there SHOULD be a penalty for it somehow. Sort of force the idea to be, "I really hope I can find a group, but if there's seriously NOONE on, I guess I can just 3box for now."
If one were allowed to do it when x or less ammount of people were on I don't think it would be a big deal. Of course this still brings the problem of one person taking down mobs that were meant to be taken down by entire groups. Then again, almost the exact same problem exists in higher levels farming lower level items off of midlevel bosses.
I dunno, I would probably do it occasionally, but 3boxing all the time would probably drive me nuts.
If one were allowed to do it when x or less ammount of people were on I don't think it would be a big deal. Of course this still brings the problem of one person taking down mobs that were meant to be taken down by entire groups. Then again, almost the exact same problem exists in higher levels farming lower level items off of midlevel bosses.
I dunno, I would probably do it occasionally, but 3boxing all the time would probably drive me nuts.
stope21
Dalayan Elder
Yea i could see it being reasonable for late night gamers. Maybe some kind of penalty for the third box such as damage reduction. Not exactly sure how this could be implemented. If it were temporal (only allowed during certain hours), your 3rd character could get left behind, or you would have to rotate.
Manluas
Dalayan Elder
DumbSnowman said:
Still disagreeing. I think 2boxing is the maximum that should be allowed and even on offtimes it's possible to find groups and from my experience even easier to find a group in the low-midlevels than in the highlevels. Often 2 boxing isn't even necessary though I agree it can come in handy sometimes.
DumbSnowman
Dalayan Beginner
I got offline 5-10 minutes ago and did a who all 22 34, which is a VERY loose group range. There were 3 people on other than me. Were I to narrow it down to 22-26 there would be 1 person.
I agree that 3-boxing would simply be overpowering. But at the same time, duoing all the time is a bit lame, as I really can't kill anything cool. Something like a 3boxing during certain times would be pretty cool I think. I really don't think people would be using them for raids or high end groups as 2boxing already cuts down charecters real use as it is. But for extra efficiency or simply being able to do a few mobs you couldn't regularly do, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
I agree that 3-boxing would simply be overpowering. But at the same time, duoing all the time is a bit lame, as I really can't kill anything cool. Something like a 3boxing during certain times would be pretty cool I think. I really don't think people would be using them for raids or high end groups as 2boxing already cuts down charecters real use as it is. But for extra efficiency or simply being able to do a few mobs you couldn't regularly do, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
luciferblack
Dalayan Elder
If you can't 2 box and get things done you may want to pick new classes. Yes, I am suggesting you play something else if you're having a hard time. Some people aren't cut out to play certain classes.
I 2 box a rogue and a bard at the moment and I can exp. Hell I did Tmaps with them yesterday and still managed to melee with the rogue plus mez and charm with the bard. And yes...it is as painful as it sounds. Hehe
All I'm saying is ANY duo can exp. Any SINGLE player can exp. It's a matter of adjusting your tactics. When you're a single player, go kill light blues. Honestly, that's what light blues are for. They should be easy enough kills for a single player. They're not very good exp for a duo though. Do quests when you can't get groups. Quests give a LOT of exp for what you have to get done. Plus often times you get very good rewards for completing them.
A single player or even a duo (hell even a trio) can NOT kill things a full group can. Tri-boxing would really damage the grouping of the server. With two boxing you can have only one of the two really - dps, tanking, healing, or CC ... with a few classes being able to do more of those abilities to a lesser extent.
If I could box a chanter, shaman, and monk or a bard, cleric, warrior or whatever......yeah...that would be kinda silly.
I 2 box a rogue and a bard at the moment and I can exp. Hell I did Tmaps with them yesterday and still managed to melee with the rogue plus mez and charm with the bard. And yes...it is as painful as it sounds. Hehe
All I'm saying is ANY duo can exp. Any SINGLE player can exp. It's a matter of adjusting your tactics. When you're a single player, go kill light blues. Honestly, that's what light blues are for. They should be easy enough kills for a single player. They're not very good exp for a duo though. Do quests when you can't get groups. Quests give a LOT of exp for what you have to get done. Plus often times you get very good rewards for completing them.
A single player or even a duo (hell even a trio) can NOT kill things a full group can. Tri-boxing would really damage the grouping of the server. With two boxing you can have only one of the two really - dps, tanking, healing, or CC ... with a few classes being able to do more of those abilities to a lesser extent.
If I could box a chanter, shaman, and monk or a bard, cleric, warrior or whatever......yeah...that would be kinda silly.