Time to replace Rustplanter?

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seregel

Dalayan Beginner
Hiya. I'm a 65 ranger asking for some advice about bows. Here are the non-BOE stats of Rustplanter, the bow I'm currently using:

Atk Delay: 41
DMG: 54
Effect: Shadow Step (Combat, 0.0)
STA +5, AGI +5, CHA +15, PR +5, DR +5
Weight: 7.0
Range: 250

Before I dinged 65, things were peachy, as the proc didn't go into effect until I hit 65. However, the proc is now proving to be a pain, as you might imagine. I'm hoping the people here might have some advice. What bows might you suggest I use instead of Rustplanter?

Measured by the amount of time I play in a week, I'm very casual (about 3 or 4 hours). However, a small group of friends and I group for most of that time, so a bow that drops off of a single-groupable mob might be just the thing. A tradeable bow would be another way to go, but I'm not sure about which bow to pursue.

Any suggestions?
 
Kedgemetal Crossbow is a good one, but really, the ratio of Rustplanter is insanely good. It is one of the TM "cursed" items which has a scary effect on it, for a ridiculously good ratio. For dropable bows, this is really the best you are going to get. You can try working on the Swiftshot quest, but until you get that or a raid dropped bow (people will have to list these out since I only know of the high end ones) you should just stick with the Rustplanter.
 
Start working on your fletching and keep an eye out for open Parcelan raids.

With the exception of Parcelan, Swiftshot is a damn nice bow and is completely one-groupable.
 
Just in case anyone wanted to point out the minuscule difference in ratio between the two bows...

Rustplanter = 1.317
Swiftshot = 1.291

keep in mind the following:

- Swiftshot has 2% crit strike.
- Swiftshot adds 7 strength and dexterity.
- Swiftshot adds to worn attack.
- Faster bows proc more often (Quiver of Sun hits for 200+)
- I *am pretty sure* that higher damage arrows have more impact on bows with shorter delays (would love verification)

The only bad thing is arrow consumption. Make sure you have Returning Shot.
You are also more prone to agro with a faster bow. Between my dps and the blind effect, I can't keep Quiver of Sun on during raids without stopping to jolt from time to time.
 
He's talking about the ranger buff that goes on both bows.
Not entirely sure exactly how spell procs (Relic Blades, Divine Rage, etc) work, but I think it's a set %.
So the faster weapon does indeed end up equalling more procs via those spells.
 
Alton said:
He's talking about the ranger buff that goes on both bows.
Not entirely sure exactly how spell procs (Relic Blades, Divine Rage, etc) work, but I think it's a set %.
So the faster weapon does indeed end up equalling more procs via those spells.
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RBoW at least scales with delay.

Finkk said:
[...] I *am pretty sure* that higher damage arrows have more impact on bows with shorter delays (would love verification) [...]
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I'm pretty sure each point of arrow damage boosts your damage by a portion of your bow damage, not by a fixed amount. I'll try to find the relevant thread.
 
Alton said:
He's talking about the ranger buff that goes on both bows.
Not entirely sure exactly how spell procs (Relic Blades, Divine Rage, etc) work, but I think it's a set %.
So the faster weapon does indeed end up equalling more procs via those spells.
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You have a parse or wiz post backing that up? Cause that goes against everything I have been told by staffers.
 
Tempus said:
You have a parse or wiz post backing that up? Cause that goes against everything I have been told by staffers.
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I plead the fifth. I can think of a bunch of things I'd rather be doing than setting myself up to be nerfed again.

But seriously, I didn't know proc buffs scaled to delay. I just figured it was percentage based.
 
Alton said:
He's talking about the ranger buff that goes on both bows.
Not entirely sure exactly how spell procs (Relic Blades, Divine Rage, etc) work, but I think it's a set %.
So the faster weapon does indeed end up equalling more procs via those spells.
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Wrong.
 
I appreciate the suggestions. I was thinking about working toward Swiftshot, but I'm wondering whether a long-delay bow with a slightly lower ratio might allow me to do about the same overall DPS since the longer-delay would allow me to squeeze in some spells between arrows without hosing my archery DPS.
 
You'll still be losing a second or so of archery time by throwing out an icerend, but not nearly as much as you would if you were using a faster bow.

I guess you just need to take into consideration out of all the arrows you will ever fire, what % of those shots will be followed by an icerend? You wouldn't have the mana to keep that up longer than a fight or 2 so I wouldn't let that be the only reason you stick with a slower bow.

Don't get me wrong, I <3 <3 slower bows but Swiftshot has quite a few advantages stat-wise.
 
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