The Truth about SoD, Wiz, and the "GM club" Legacy

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Personally, I think even if GM's DO happen to lock zones, check loots, blah blah blah...people shouldn't bitch. If I spent hours and hours of my life helping people on a free server, with no pay, I'd expect a little fun in retun for it.

Who cares if a guild(with a GM) does something an ordinary person can't do to get loots. All the guilds have exploited or done that shit some time or another. Quit being a bunch of pussies because your super sweet guild on a game played over the internet couldn't kill a mob or get an item. Gogo GM commands! <3
 
The problem with catching shady GM corruption is that it takes another GM to catch them, and even then it can be difficult. There's always going to be rumours of corruption, whether they be real or not (I could tell you a few stories myself but I'll pass on the opportunity for now). The big problem that we have now is that the guild in question (Legacy) is full of GM's.

It was a running joke for a while that Legacy was the GM guild, and more than a few people seemed to get GM status when they joined the guild. What that means is that there's only about 2 or so GM's total in the other two raiding guilds, Ruin and PR (no offense to those guilds just starting on their raiding careers).

Call it stupid, or call it human nature, either way there is a certain jealousy involved when that happens. Ruin had a problem with GotW when it contained most of the GM's and the discontent spreaded when Legacy formed. It's the management's fault, really, for letting it get out of hand as it has. I mean, if every major guild had 3 or so GM's in it then no one would give a :censored:, but when one guild has like 10 GM's in it (exageration?) you can't expect people not to call bull****.
 
dwf-rog-lfg said:
Personally, I think even if GM's DO happen to lock zones, check loots, blah blah blah...people shouldn't bitch. If I spent hours and hours of my life helping people on a free server, with no pay, I'd expect a little fun in retun for it.

Who cares if a guild(with a GM) does something an ordinary person can't do to get loots. All the guilds have exploited or done that shit some time or another. Quit being a bunch of pussies because your super sweet guild on a game played over the internet couldn't kill a mob or get an item. Gogo GM commands! <3
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what you dont understand about how unfair this is in a guild raiding situation is, once you know what a mob is fixing to drop, you can either go for it and get the best drops and relics off that mob, or let someone else kill it and giving them the crappier loots and no relics. how fair is it when you know if a mob is going to drop a relic and go kill it just for the relic? and if it isnt going to drop what you want, just leaving it up.

also who are you and are you even in a raiding guild to understand what i am posting?
 
First I'm not Darlene.

Second it didnt seem like you were supporting anyone with your arguing on the internet remark and reference to the wrong mob.

Third you want to REALLY know what started off this last flame with legacy that built up to this over the last month and a half? An ARCHAIC SPELL FRAGMENT that got destroyed in prison of all of things when Ruin and Legacy were doing a rare joint raid trying to get along for the advancement of both guilds. We would help them pass the manifestations and get a key, they would help kill the mirror golems to get us into the next area as we did not have the 6 clerics and 2 or 3 other healers. Afterwards we would do another joint raid the week after to help get them a key.

But seemingly a spell piece dropped and got inadvertantly destroyed without anyone checking to see if legacy needed it (right after they scored a rare drop shield and sword). Teh raid went on with no one knowing and we wped several times on an extremely high hp mirror golem encoutner that we couldnt even beat joined.

The next day Legacy learns of the spell fragment and decides to "cut us out". They get the mirror golem encounter nerfed, used the key we got them, and killed it and passed on to the next area without fullfilling their part of the bargain.

It then escalated to certain members of them stalking us. Them jumping over us in raid zones, and everyhting else that has been mentioned.

For a stupid fucking spell fragment THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO FARM AT THEIR LEISURE.
 
diolas said:
Call it stupid, or call it human nature, either way there is a certain jealousy involved when that happens. Ruin had a problem with GotW when it contained most of the GM's and the discontent spreaded when Legacy formed. It's the management's fault, really, for letting it get out of hand as it has. I mean, if every major guild had 3 or so GM's in it then no one would give a :censored:, but when one guild has like 10 GM's in it (exageration?) you can't expect people not to call bull****.
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But Legacy only has one active GM. At its worst, it had 4. PR had like three. What is the problem here?

As for Duma, this is not about Legacy/Ruin drama, it's about GM corruption. Stay on topic or you will be removed.
 
I'm Zlandack. I was in Ruin for a few weeks before I quit. Sure I know about the raiding guild thing, because I play live and raid three-five times a week on a Rogue. How is it unfair or not? If a mob comes out, and nobody knows what loots on it...sooner or later someone will kill it. If you find out if it has shitty loots, yet you've spent weeks attempting the raid, TOUGH SHIT. Its part of playing. If you guys can't deal with it, then quit and let the cooler, more mature players take the stage and show people whats up.

I tell ya, I was in a guild on EQLive(Quellious server), and we had a GM in our guild. He checked mob loots, he did everything 99% of the other GMs did. Its a fucking game man, grow up. Lol...reminds me of Sha's Revenge when that GM had a guild, man that was drama for a bit.
 
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The next day Legacy learns of the spell fragment and decides to "cut us out". They get the mirror golem encounter nerfed, used the key we got them, and killed it and passed on to the next area without fullfilling their part of the bargain.
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Ok, so I'm posting again. I can promise you the mirror golems have not been changed in recent history. They're the same encounter they were back in May/June.
 
IMO lock the thread, because this is going to get out of hand. Don't want anyone getting their feelings/egos hurt. Btw, nice gear Zhak =P
 
just when i thought it couldn't get any more retarded.
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LOL, just wait, it can get way more retarded, you should see my 2 kids, they can really go at something totally stupid and you'll be rolling on the floor, pissing your pants laughing over the ridiculousness. Shoot, recently they've been having slap fights over 2 magnetic letters on the fridge and whether or not the A or the N should be put first, it's hilarious, and these darn guild fights remind me of it, as does the GM issue of whether they cheat or not. Who gives a shit if they want to cheat to play, great; as long as they don't ruin the game for me. Arguing about whether they do or not is as about as meaningful as the A and N magnets lol. So sad :roll: :roll:
 
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