Supreme Charm of Magic

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took2summit

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Sorry if this has already been posted.

Going from Eternal to Supreme casters lose 50 worn Atk. I personally hate the idea of losing something after spending 600k. Plus a lot of us casters like to melee, any reason supreme charm of magic doesn't have worn atk?
 
Please do not get my spell critical and spell ward nerfed for some piddly and worthless to me worn attack.
 
Honestly that's a pretty poorly thought out response. Why exactly would adding 50 attack merit a nerf elsewhere? The melee version has the same spell crit and heal crit and worn attack, why cant the caster version also?

I'm on my phone so please correct any numbers that may be wrong.

I dont think stats, hp, mana are relevant in this discussion so will leave them out.

Eternal 10% crit heal, 6% crit spell, 5ft, 5 regen, 50 atk
Supreme power 13% crit heal 8% crit spell, 5ft, 10 regen, 75 atk
Supreme magic 13% crit heal 8% crit spell, 8ft, 8 regen, 0 atk

As you can see there's only 1 area of a downgrade, atk for casters
 
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took2summit said:
Honestly that's a pretty poorly thought out response. Why exactly would adding 50 attack merit a nerf elsewhere? The melee version has the same spell crit and heal crit and worn attack, why cant the caster version also?

I'm on my phone so please correct any numbers that may be wrong.

I dont think stats, hp, mana are relevant in this discussion so will leave them out.

Eternal 10% crit heal, 8% crit spell, 5ft, 50atk
Supreme power 13% crit heal 8% crit spell, 5ft, 75atk
Supreme magic 13% crit heal 8% crit spell, 8ft, 0atk

As you can see there's only 1 area of a downgrade, atk for casters
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Where exactly do casters benefit from attack outside of enchanters I am pretty confused here.
 
Otcho said:
Where exactly do casters benefit from attack outside of enchanters I am pretty confused here.
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Both priests and enchantrrs enjoy melee. I'm just saying the progression of charms as I outlined doesnt really make sense to get rid of attack
 
took2summit said:
Honestly that's a pretty poorly thought out response. Why exactly would adding 50 attack merit a nerf elsewhere?
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Just the way the server works. You ask for a change, and it happens at such an incredible price you ask yourself "Why did I even ask for this? WHY?!"
 
Honestly the more I think about it the more I think it was just an oversight. Supreme magic has 5% crit strike is the main reason I feel that way, with high end caster items having 100% haste its obvious the devs want casters to melee. I feel like not giving casters the worn atk would be equivalent to not giving rangers the crit heal mod. As I said the charms have been as is for so long I think the no atk is an oversight at this point.
 
i would be happy with worn truesight since its like the most powerful magic item in the game yet a level 10 character can decieve you.

One time a really cool dev made a really cool thing to fix this, but then people were mean
 
Silosobi said:
i would be happy with worn truesight since its like the most powerful magic item in the game yet a level 10 character can decieve you.

One time a really cool dev made a really cool thing to fix this, but then people were mean
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This. If charms gave sight instead of just that one really bad one noone cares about then there would be more incentive to make blind races without feeling fucking awful. I do not get any reason to not give infra/ultravision/seeinvis to everyone.
 
yeah, casters not getting truesight is pretty retarded but well i heard a handsome guy got banned trying to fix that
 
Otcho said:
This. If charms gave sight instead of just that one really bad one noone cares about then there would be more incentive to make blind races without feeling fucking awful. I do not get any reason to not give infra/ultravision/seeinvis to everyone.
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Especially "everyone" who buys a charm for over a million platinum.

COME ON
 
Which is probably why every tier in EQ from PoP+ gave the effect Faerune or something of that sort.
 
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Just put ultravision on all charms. There is no good reason for three races to be blind. It was a cool design decision back in 1997 maybe but its just garbage now.
 
I'm not so sure it was cool back then. Around live launch I had a human and walking around blind lost its novelty pretty quickly.
 
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