Spires rewards

Silosobi

Silosobi

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I was just talking with some people about how amazing the rewards are from spires. I know some mobs have gotten harder, but I still think this is the case. On top of that, the bracers were made 100% droprate which just made it soo much better.

I understand how PITA it is to just never have your bracer drop when its something you really need for MC or w/e, but I feel like 100% droprate is just too good. (and it makes it super easy to get every scummy alt their spires bracer).

What if, instead, mobs had the same chance to drop a bracer as before, but instead they dropped something like "Ancient Runed Bracelet" NO DROP with no stats, that a player could trade in for their class bracer.

I know this would be some extra work for the devs, but I think it would put the overall time/reward of the zone back towards something more reasonable... I remember thinking how much awesome loot we pulled out of spires even before 100% bracers, now it just seems like a guild can gear up SO fast, even more/better than old thaz was.

Just my random thoughts...
 
They changed it so its not 100% anymore and have it set up so that each boss can drop any class bracer with a lower % than 100.
I think they were in the patch notes a little bit back.
 
actually not a bad idea overall solo, but now every boss can drop any class bracer and its not 100%
 
Hmm. IDK if thats better or worse. Cant farm them for stupid alts, but might make it even worse for that random dude who just has bad luck and can't get his to drop. Abouts what % is it? Similar to old, or still pretty high?

I like having more control over loot, because RNG can just screw you over so hard. FWF has raided spires/turuj for some endless amount of time and a bunch of people that have been there the whole time still miss core tomes that would be HUGE upgrades, moreso than any item loot.

/rant off.
 
Tomes and bracers are a big difference. Can go clears w/o a tome and months without that specific one dropping that is super useful. I think soon though it has been aluded that there will be more ways to get those tomes.

As far as the bracers RNG will always be rough and it always seams that 1 item you really want doesnt drop for you but then that 1 time you miss the spawn it drops, see Galsans fae neck thread. I personally like the way the class bracers are now, but if you implement something like that Solo for the class bracers why not just do it for every loot. Can make the 'better' drops require 2 or 3 tokens and have all raid bosses drop 2 or 3 <token of mob y>
 
An element of randomness is nice. Bosses that randomly drop 4-8 loots are fine. Something might be more rare for your guild, but out of 8 items its just not going to never drop or feel unobtainable.

Where I see a problem is like Class tomes / opus (and those bracers to a lesser degree). Where there is a HUGE loot table, that rarely drops from many many mobs, seeing one specific thing is very rare. Couple that with the fact that you can't specifically target that item in any way, and it can feel very very hopeless. This isn't even such a problem for me, as I've been lucky enough to get all my core class books, but I have lots of friends who have put in LOTS of time, and are missing a pretty big chunk of dps (or other desired stat) just because RNG was not in our favor.

You used to be able to trade for class tomes, which alleviated that problem. It wasnt free or easy, but if you had really bad luck with a specific thing you could still get it. Now if you progress through turuj and don't get certain books you just feel gimped (hopefully the future will improve this situation, but who knows when/if that will happen)
 
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