Savagery

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soba

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Any chance this buff could be changed to be twice the duration,twice the mana cost, twice the recast time? With the original duration of 6 minutes and with all the changes mentioned I don't see this as being anything but a convenience change.
 
Brimztone said:
Wait, why exactly do you want this?

What's so bad about how it is now?
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Because as I mentioned it's a convenience change? Having to recast a buff every 6 minutes is a pain in the ass, doubling the duration and everything else makes it less of a pain in the ass, I don't see the difficulty in understanding this.
 
soba said:
Because as I mentioned it's a convenience change? Having to recast a buff every 6 minutes is a pain in the ass, doubling the duration and everything else makes it less of a pain in the ass, I don't see the difficulty in understanding this.
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Fair enough.
 
soba said:
Any chance this buff could be changed to be twice the duration,twice the mana cost, twice the recast time? With the original duration of 6 minutes and with all the changes mentioned I don't see this as being anything but a convenience change.
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I'm not sure the point of aggro buffs having a short duration. Sk Voice is the same though I'm fairly certain it lasts a little bit longer than 6 minutes. I'm also fairly certain enc aggro isn't much better. I'd like for aggro buffs to last 30 minutes at the least. SK's case there's so much more useful tools for battle that I often just don't even waste my time using it for groups to free up a spell slot and on raids I grow tired of keeping it memmed for recasting it over and over for the warrior. Also the overly long refresh timer is a turn off and why it's such a pain that you can't just mem it, use it, then mem something else more useful for SK dps.

I'm sure there's reasons behind the current timers. I don't expect it to be changed for one reason or another. If it were changed though it'd certainly be welcomed.
 
Savagery isn't and agro buff. It's ATK an 50 to all resists. I'd like this change, since when I'm pulling it seems like I'm constantly pausing to bother the BST for a refresh. :toot:
 
I would love for Savagery to actually be changed to what I posted, with everything doubled it stays at the same relative power, and I see no reason for any other buff to have the same duration limitation as the original Savagery buff time when doubling mana/duration/recast time gets the same end result with a hell of a lot less irritation.

With that in mind however please do not derail this thread with suggestions for other spells to get the same treatment, if you feel your spell should be changed in the same manner please start your own thread about it.
 
is the mana cost on savegry significant? cause if it is something like this would let you buff then med then fight instead of having to buff again midfight.
 
so?

No BST I know ever cries OOM in a fight....I dont understand the point you are trying to make.

Its a PITA for the BST and whoever is getting Savagery atm as is, Rakeels suggestion just makes it less of a PITA.

Thumbs up.
 
i like the idea myself, but im not sure the buff should be a convienence buff.. its a pretty good spell and should be annoying to keep it up imo=/
 
I dunno if the duration is so short I guess it's intended to be this way... But I'm not against the op.
Or maybe make it consume 2 peridots instead of one if the 2xmana thing isn't nasty enough ? Screw this I don't want it to change this way in fact :/
 
khador said:
i like the idea myself, but im not sure the buff should be a convienence buff.. its a pretty good spell and should be annoying to keep it up imo=/
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With a duration of 12 minutes the spell still won't really be "convenient" you're still having to work to keep it up, it's just less of a pain in the ass.

Dzillon said:
I dunno if the duration is so short I guess it's intended to be this way... But I'm not against the op.
Or maybe make it consume 2 peridots instead of one if the 2xmana thing isn't nasty enough ? Screw this I don't want it to change this way in fact :/
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You started out the post in support of it and even threw in a decent suggestion and then ended it by completely contradicting yourself without even saying why you changed your mind at the very end, why did you change your mind? :psyduck:
 
Jun said:
Savagery isn't and agro buff. It's ATK an 50 to all resists. I'd like this change, since when I'm pulling it seems like I'm constantly pausing to bother the BST for a refresh. :toot:
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Let's be more anal please Jun thanks.

Any buff with +att is an "aggro" buff plain and simple.

Allow me to rephrase pointlessly. I think any att and aggro buff should have it's duration increased because it's tiring to recast the spells again and again and again. From here on out I shall refer to voice etc spells as "aggression +". /rolleyes
 
Botiemaster said:
Any buff with +att is an "aggro" buff plain and simple.
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No. Any buff with +aggro is an aggro buff. Voice of Kaezul for example, is an aggro buff. You wouldn't give the tank Savagery because it gives +attack to give him more aggro, you would give it to DPS classes like Rogues and Rangers so they will do more damage.
 
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