request for spell changes

Boramur

Dalayan Beginner
I was wondering if there is a chance to get the recast on Dissolvement of Shadows decreased to like 6 seconds Vs 12?

I can only ever get one spell off during a fight. I don't see this as over powering, Necros, and Clerics are suppose to be the masters of Undead. Its frustrating watching other classes totally out nuking us on undead. I'm not saying we should be Wizards, but on Undead we should be close.



Classes:
Cleric: 65
Necromancer: 65

Mana: 385

Skill: Evocation

Resistance type: Magic

Targets: Undead

Casting time: 5500 (5.5 seconds)

Recast delay: 12000 (12 seconds)

Duration: Instant

Effects: Destroy Target (Max. Level: 44)
Decrease Hitpoints by -1625(L1-65)

Also it was discussed earlier that Scitterpox had a chance to get its tick duration changed from 18 ticks to 9, i was wondering if this is still going to happen? (never use it as it stands now)

Scitterpox

Classes:
Necromancer: 64

Mana: 525

Skill: Conjuration

Resistance type: Disease

Targets: All

Casting time: 6500 (6.5 seconds)

Recast delay: Instant

Duration: 18 ticks (1.8 minutes)

Effects: Poison Counters (15)
Damage Over Time for -2610(L1-65) points (-145(L1-65) per Tick)
Decrease HP (Once) by -125(L1-65)
Decrease CHA by -25(L1-65)

Thanks for listening once again :)

Kindar Morgoth
Level 65 Necro
 
Effects: Destroy Target (Max. Level: 44)
Decrease Hitpoints by -1625(L1-65)

I'd say no based on this fact alone. If it didn't have the destroy component too it, I'd probably say it might be feasible. But, that recast delay keeps it from becoming an lowbie undead slaying gatling gun. On top of that, its fairly cheap on mana for what it does.
 
Not really. It's 1000 less damage than the Relic wizard nuke that works on everything for more mana and longer recast. If anything, it sucks.
 
The ratio on the undead nuke vs relic tarhyl's is pretty similar -- it's the recast that really kills it. Perhaps upping damage / mana to be in line with tarhyls and keeping the long recast, or lowering the recast would help.

(Tarhyl's is 2250 for 510 = 4.4 ratio or so)
(Undead nuke is 1625 for 385 = 4.2 or so)
 
What kind of sense does it make trying to make a necros nuke as good as a wizards? They can stack dots on the mob + have a pet on it as well, they don't get nukes as good as wizards
 
I think what he's trying to say is, necros should be "masters" of undead meaning they should be able to harm them better than any other class, along the lines of clerics and paladins (since they are the "holy" class). Wizards are good nukers overall... Necros are good dotters but should also get some very nice undead only nukes to keep them up to par with wizards against undead.
 
A better ratio would be nice but it's not really necessary. Given that a wizard will always outdamage a cleric because of agro issues, it's not a big deal either way.
 
diolas said:
A better ratio would be nice but it's not really necessary. Given that a wizard will always outdamage a cleric because of agro issues, it's not a big deal either way.

A wizard should out-nuke all other casters in all situations, but I'm biased.

KAS
 
gorgetrapper said:
I think what he's trying to say is, necros should be "masters" of undead meaning they should be able to harm them better than any other class, along the lines of clerics and paladins (since they are the "holy" class). Wizards are good nukers overall... Necros are good dotters but should also get some very nice undead only nukes to keep them up to par with wizards against undead.

I thought necros were masters of controlling and working w/ undead, not destroying it.

Thought paladins/clerics were masters of destroying it ;p
 
Yanbik said:
gorgetrapper said:
I think what he's trying to say is, necros should be "masters" of undead meaning they should be able to harm them better than any other class, along the lines of clerics and paladins (since they are the "holy" class). Wizards are good nukers overall... Necros are good dotters but should also get some very nice undead only nukes to keep them up to par with wizards against undead.

I thought necros were masters of controlling and working w/ undead, not destroying it.

Thought paladins/clerics were masters of destroying it ;p

Necro's are, to my understanding, suppose to be masters of all that is undead. Just as mages get some strong anti-summoned spells (since they are the masters of all that is summoned).

Personally, I still don't think a necro, or any class for that matter, should be able to out nuke a wizard. I believe necros, clerics, and pally's should be strong vs undead but I think they are in line with where they should be.

If you look at Mage/Druid spell Disposement (which is anti-summoned spell), you will see that the numbers are identical to Dissolvement of Shadows. So Necro/Cleric vs Undead = Mage/Druid vs Summoned - I think that is pretty good balance IMO.
 
When did this " no one should out nuke a Wizard" come into this?

I stated that "I'm not saying we should be Wizards, but on Undead we should be [b]close[/b]."

I think Wizards should be the best nukers, BUT on undead Necro/Clerics should be better at nuking (damage) then on living!

I may as well just chain lifetap, sure its a little more mana but i can do way more damage.

As for the Mage/Druid issue yes the stats are the same. So with that being said, my request is now to have the recast on Dissolvement of Shadows and Disposement changed to 6 sec recast Vs 12.

Wiz had stated he was thinking about the scitterpox duration, i'm simply inquiring to if he was still going to change it, and any possible Eta.

Thanks

Kindar Morgoth
Level 65 Necro
 
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