Request for More Equipment Light Sources

Grinkles

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Some equipment, such as Hurngol's Flare and Slippers of Sparkling Ash, doubles as a light source when worn. Certain utility items, such as a Greater Lightstone, will do the same job even from a base inventory slot (that is, when not in a bag). As I upgraded my entire gear set from pre-Ikisith T8ish loot to my current set, all of my light source gear became obsolete, whereas not one piece of the new gear came with this feature. For a long while, I took to carrying around a GLS in one of my base inventory slots solely to serve this purpose, but this is impractical in most cases given that such a slot is almost certainly already spoken for either by an important clicky or by another bag, especially for a main looter.

Will the devs please consider assigning light source functionality to several more pieces of raid loot? Items with bright-sounding names like the Ring of Luminous Crystals could be one way to go. There are also weapons that already have a particle effect which common sense would suggest ought to be light sources, such as the Spire of Destruction (which happens to look like a gigantic torch in the first place!). Perhaps Spires class bracers would also be something to consider for this change, given that it would solve the problem across all classes at a certain tier.

My main purpose for requesting this is that staring at a computer monitor for hours on end is already a strain enough on the eyes, but when combined with ultra-low lighting in-game, the problem worsens. PCs and NPCs alike blend in with their surroundings varying degrees, name tags become harder to read at a glance, and in the darkest of zones, fights are reduced to dances between murky silhouettes overlaid with a hodgepodge of opaque spell particles. Upping the gamma setting is an option, yes, but this feature seems to be somewhat faulty (apparently it cannot be adjusted when in windowed mode), and come sunrise, the game will appear oversaturated in some areas and washed out in others. Simply put, playing in excessive darkness is no fun. Surely, other players must feel this way. (Guys and gals, chime in!)

Luminosity for the current client seems to be rendered client-side and only emanates from the player himself/herself; a raid full of lighted equipment would not mean the player would have to deal with 18 independent, mobile light sources, in case any had that fear.

For visual reference, the following are un-retouched pictures taken from similar perspective in the absence of an external (that is, zone-provided) light source. Bear in mind that my outfit consists of atrociously bright colors, whereas most players are seen sporting a darker look that would stand out much less in similar lighting.

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1) Greater Lightstone in inventory + Ultravision:



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2) No light source in inventory + Ultravision:



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3) No light source in inventory + Human vision:

 
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This goes back to many many many posts in the past, but:

Worn sight buffs on charms, progressively getting better the more time dollar sunk into them. Worn Infravision on lower end charms just help out blind races enjoy the game. I would love to see some Ultravision + See Invis combo on 1.2 mil charms, but know that is a pipe dream. Maybe just Ultravision.
 
why doesn't the caster 1.2 have truesight on it? why do no caster items have worn acumen?

it is a mystery.
 
Add Truesight to High Seeker MQ aug, and people all over Dalaya will rejoice

Even if it's something dumb like final aug only, at least the possibility of getting it is there.
Kill Saitha, get Truesight. Something attainable!
 
Fel'talla, Path of the Stars is a Light Source... not that this fixes the problem
 
Give me a list of items that make thematic sense being light sources!

The whole blindness thing changes in 3.0, so I'd rather not do anything drastic now. But added ls where it makes sense is a quick and easy thing.
 
Here is a list of suggested items, though I have no way of knowing if some of them are already light sources, unfortunately. I have stuck with Ikisith-related loots, as this seems to be the stage in development where light source functionality on items was often overlooked. Justifications appear in italics. By all means, feel free to pare the list down as you see fit, Waldoff & Co.

Tier 10 Loot

1) A Burning Chunk
Class: ALL
Apart from the name, this item can conjure up fire with a click.

2) Band of Exceptional Clarity
Class: CLR DRU SHM
How better to embody "exceptional clarity" than by brightening the wearer's surroundings?

3) Flare Prism
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BRD ROG BST
The name speaks for itself.

5) Relgon's Radiance
Class: CLR PAL RNG DRU MNK SHM BST
The name speaks for itself.

6) The Star of Dawn
Class: CLR DRU BRD ROG SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC BST
The name speaks for itself.

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Tier 11 Loot

1) Bracelet of Sacred Cremation (Also marked as a T12 drop.)
Class: CLR DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
The proc is Flash Fire.

2) Latent Wisp of Fury
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BRD ROG BST
The name alludes to a willowisp, and the item is charged with lightning.

3) Spire of Destruction
Class: NEC WIZ MAG ENC
This item is essentially a deluxe torch.

4) Wand of the High Researcher
Class: CLR DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
This wand's tip is surrounded by swirling orange sparks.

5) [Spires class bracers]??
Class: ALL
A loose case could be made for the fact that they all bear unique enchantments and are encrusted with bright gems,
and certainly the CLR bracelet's name suggests light...
but really, this would be a matter of convenience more than anything else.


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Tier 12 Loot

1) Fist of the Dawn
Class: MNK BST
The name speaks for itself.

2) Ring of Luminous Crystals
Class: CLR PAL DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
The name speaks for itself.

3) Scimitar of the Ghan
Class: RNG DRU
Utilizes a particle effect of bright green leaves.

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Tier 13 Loot

1) Elael's Corona
Class: RNG DRU MNK NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Apart from the name, the item icon depicts fire.
 
Ah, thanks for saying so. :)

While we're on the subject, I have a burning question. Are bags able to be coded as light sources? Just curious.

Holy shit, this is a great idea for a quest with a series of rewards:

1. Find *A Tired Mover in Sadri and offer to help him move his mother-in-law from her house to the frog retirement home. Get ---Moving Box - 1 slot/giant
2. Find his lost novelty sign and place it in the box so his he can amuse the frog retirement home nurses when they open her stuff to move her in. Find ---"Moving Sucks Novelty Sign" Sadri ground spawn.
3. Combine the sign in the box. Get ---Packed Fun Box
4. Give Packed Fun Box to *A Tired Mover. "Insert dialog about how you have always wanted to travel". Get a bag reward. Get --- Hitchhikers' Sling - 2 slot/small/Light Source
5. Travel to SK and find *A Mad Farmer . Get accused of stealing and being scared off so you forget to leave your pack. Find *A Mad Farmer his 'Dusty Farmer's Glasses' (ground spawn in SK at one of the sign posts) to prove you are not stealing. Trade him your Hitchhikers' Sling for the thief's pack. Get --- Thief's Light Pack - 4 slot/Giant/Light Source
6. Head to Ogguk and find the *The Picnicker. He is going to propose during today's pick-nick, but has lost he ring! He is an Ogre after all... It may have been stolen. Find *The Flatfooted Thief in a cell in Tunnels of Lasarith and trade him the Thief's Light Pack (with some purchased lock picking tools, food+water, and a mithril dagger) for the Ogre Wedding Ring. Get --- Ogre Wedding Ring
7. Give Ogre wedding ring to *The Picnicker. He is so excited that is cancels the pick-nick to go propose right away. Get --- Midday Pack and Go - 6 slot/medium/100%wr/Light Source
8. Head to Oasis and find *Yogi, The Caravan Cook. Get him his special ingredients and combine in the Midday Pack and Go. Get --- A Pick-A-Nick Basket
9. Give *Yogi, The Caravan Cook A Pick-A-Nick Basket. Get --- Star Lite Carryall - 8 slot/Medium/100%wr/Light Source
10+ Do harder quest and get --- Radiant Sack of The Infinite - 10 slot/Giant/100% wr/Light Source

NPCs:
*A Tired Mover
*A Mad Farmer
*The Picnicker
*The Flatfooted Thief
*Yogi, The Caravan Cook
*???

New Unique Items:
Moving Box - 1 slot/giant
Moving Sucks Novelty Sign
Packed Fun Box - Click Fireworks
Hitchhikers' Sling - 2 slot/small/Light Source
Dusty Farmer's Glasses - Click Magnify
Thief's Light Pack - 4 slot/Giant/Light Source
Ogre Wedding Ring - +25 worn Charisma
Midday Pack and Go - 6 slot/medium/100%wr/Light Source
6 ingredients that make up some food for a picnic
A Pick-A-Nick Basket - 10 Charges of bear form
Star Lite Carryall - 8 slot/Medium/100%wr/Light Source
Radiant Sack of The Infinite - 10 slot/Giant/100% wr/Light Source


Add some dialog depth and some more quest robustness, make all the items lore, and add the 10+ quests parts. Give players a cool light source bag reward for a fun quest and call it a day.
 
Has any further consideration been given to this? If, for one reason or another, the staff think things are better off as they are with regard to light sources, I'd understand. I just want to make sure the request wasn't forgotten.
 
I am pretty sure Olive went through and made a ton of late game items lightsources where it made thematic sense.

Also bags do not seem to work right in this client as light sources. I will know more next patch.

Finally, 3.0 is going to change the whole vision/light/shadow stuff all around. I am not sure how much effort further effort I want to put into this with the big push towards 3.0.
 
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