It really is old bashing WoW on any and every EQ forum, not to mention in game. You don't skip content in WoW. I enjoy both games, but holy shit is it tiresome coming on the EQ forums or logging in the game itself and not being able to go 5 minutes without someone bashing WoW. The game is much more difficult and progression oriented than any of you give it credit for.
EQ players need to grow the fuck up and get over the fact that games have progressed beyond Classic EQ.
No offence buddy, but if you like to play WoW so much and are tired of us bashing it... (ps, i dont bash wow... i like wow, just never played it
) then what the hell are you doing here?
I think everything you wrote shows another issue I dislike with DKP: Over time it becomes riddled with exceptions and special cases. For example 2 boxing is very much a common reality on SoD. Are they separate characters? What if someone wants to bring an alt? What if someone has to drop to bring, say, another chanter for a particular fight, do they not get DKP now. Is there standby DKP? What about standby abuse? What about these new tomes the dev's are harping on about, how are we going to treat them? If we invite a guest do they get DKP? Will they be less likely to help if they have no chance at loot?
Its still really simple imho:
- a duo box gets its own DKP normally, but of course the ideal world would be just to have each person on the list with just one toon.
- bringing alts is something that can be done when you are after certain items where you know the rest would rot. it is up to the individual members really to decide amongst themselves which alt gets to be in. alts can take rots for free ofc. a really good example here is the farhag elders. if you are after a certain item for them, then you could allow people to bring pally/sk alts to pick up shields and axes
getting an alt to the needed location is resposibility for the owner of said alt to. you either get him/her there in beforehand or you dont get in at all. not letting stuff rot is one thing, but were also not going to sit around on our asses staring at the walls.
- when you require somebody to drop for a certain fight because other classes are key then the dropped person would still get his DKP for the fight. pretty obvious really.
- guests & dkp? no, ofc not. imho you look at them like alts that can get rots for free
You missed the point of what I said. If the goal of every individual raider is to get loot for themselves and this is backed up by a DKP system then the guild will be crippled compared to a guild who cares more about progression. In an ideal world they would be exactly the same. Let me know when we live in one.
Well, apperently DKP can work for progression
Maybe its just because in Exodus we have no need for stuff like relics, archiacs & thaz gems anymore. Because now it just about doesnt matter anymore who an item ends up with, we all get better out of it anyway.