proc lvl mystery

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Aytowun

Dalayan Beginner
I personally feel proc lvl's should not be a mystery to people owning, buying or selling an item.

can we revisit this topic?

solution 1. whats wrong with implementing identify spell information to contain the info that client restirctions do not allow to be listed?

solution 2. list the proc lvls online like the haste % list on wiki ( you can have rabb list the proc lvls to make up for his murderous-jesus-stunt. hehe)

If you think people should just ask in /ooc every single time they want to know when an item procs.... i strongly disagree. This is getting old listening to peope ask when crap procs all day.

There are also many items that exist, but are rare because only a handful have dropped so far.... and there is no1 to ask when it procs.
( any clue when moth-eaten tree swatch procs? anybody? )

As a prospective buyer or seller, knowing the proc lvl will help determine the price.

As an item-owner, not knowing can drive you nuts.

I can already see replies saying to just exp or guesstimate, but that is not my point.

Also, if there is a reason it should remain a mystery, i am willing to listen.
 
the wiki idea would probably be the easiest to impliment and it can be done by players.
 
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* You can now Identify Bottled Maps to determine the difficuly of the map inside the bottle.
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now, if i only knew when my moth-eaten tree swatch proc'd at.... hrmmmm if only there was some way to know... ;p

Identify spell can bring us world peace... this is the solution! i need an emoticon for humungous ass smile!

:10bux: please tell me when it procs :10bux: i will pay you :10bux: :10bux: :10bux: :10bux: :10bux: lol
 
I'd like a way to find out when something procs other than ooc as well. I got Revenant's Blade at level 37, two after the level req. I assumed that it would proc fairly close to the req. It's proc is Yalup 3, which is a 51 paladin spell and a 44 Cleric spell. I assumed it would proc around 44, but it turns out, it doesn't proc until 51. Part of the reason I got the sword in the first place was as a chance to get Yalup 3 sometimes before I reached 51. By the time I am 51, I will have a better sword and will have had this one for nearly 20 level without it ever procing. The person who sold it admitted they didn't know, but assumed it was 44 like the cleric spell. If I had been able to cast something on it, or even if it said "Required level 35, proc level 51" I probably would have saved my plat for something else.

While we're on the subject of proc's. I fail to see the point of something procing nearly 20 levels after the required level. If you buy an item at your required level, it should proc at least with in 5 levels, after level 20 or so there are very few people who keep the same item for 20 levels.

Keeping Revenant's Blade as an example, I know it's no where near good enough to be used as a sword for a 51 paladin, but if the cost of it is raised because of the proc, then it should proc earlier. Why have a sword that procs a (fast cast, low mana) spell that you can cast? I also realize that it would be unfair to people without it if a 35 paladin was running around with Yalup 3 all the time. So my suggestion would be increasing by level. I get the message "you do not have the will to command this weapon" so I know that it's trying to proc, and I think I get this message more with each level. Is there a way to set procs on a timer of sorts? Maybe with every 30 mobs there would be a chance for the blade to proc at level 35. Then -2 mobs for each level gained. Every 28 at 36, 26 at 37 etc. Then by 50 it can revert back to however proc's are gauged.

Also, while wiki works for listing them, we never know if it will be accurate. The person entering it could have missed the first time it proc'd and have it listed as a level or 2 later. Or someone could make the mistake of assuming a spell proc would be the lowest level the spell is available at. And while I hate to say it, you never know when someone could lie about the proc level so that they can sell something. I'm trusting, and I hope that if I'm ever buying something that procs the seller will tell the truth about the level. Even so, I'd much prefer an official tag or spell that tells you with 100% accuracy when the item procs.

And, sorry to make this so long, could there also be a note of what things are summoned? I saw a "bag of rocks" or something the other day with some nice stats that summons, duh, a throwing rock. It was usable by several classes including mine. I probably would have bought it, but thankfully the seller also added "Summons rock" with a link to the summoned item which my class cannot use. I'd like items that summon items to have a built in link, like items that have augs attached. So it would be something like "Effect: Summon Rock" where "Summon Rock" is a link to the summoned item.
 
Would it be possible to have a way to show a "suggested level" in addition to the required level for weapons with a proc. The suggested level could be a hint as to what the actual proc level with it being +/- say 3 of the suggested level. This way there could still be a level of mystery surronding the proc level (with people being plesently surprised if its before or being in anticipation if it is after) but at the same time giving buyers some idea of the item they are buying.
 
sig according to the admin it isnt possible to add additional stats to items due to client side restrictions, but I feel my original 2 ideas wud circumvent that issue, but this will require some work on part of the admins.
( keying in proc lvl info on every item that procs might take some time but i feel it would be worth it in the long run.)

ice-nine thx for your feedback and support! =)
 
Although I like the idea of using Identify, and it's what I though would be feasable, I wouldn't sweat it soo much. Pretty much from what I've seen, weapons don't proc if they are too advantageous for your level.
 
hooden i love ya...but thats not the point;

i want to know if proc lvl is supposed to be a mystery? or its something we can know ...just not atm due to client restrictions

if the 2nd is the case i would love to see them implement 1 of the 2 suggestions i made

alot of us melees arent as understanding as you kind mages can be ;p....maybe this is more of a melee issue?
 
Aytowun said:
hooden i love ya...but thats not the point;

i want to know if proc lvl is supposed to be a mystery? or its something we can know ...just not atm due to client restrictions

if the 2nd is the case i would love to see them implement 1 of the 2 suggestions i made

alot of us melees arent as understanding as you kind mages can be ;p....maybe this is more of a melee issue?
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LOL, I'm no mage... actually play a Wizard/Cleric. But I totally know what you're talking about since I played closely with a warrior when I was coming up. I like the idea of making proc level known somehow.

I happen to have a melee who can equip a level required weapon (38), yet at level 41 I still cannot take advantage of the 20-30ish DD on it. Doesn't really make too much sense in my book, but that's a whole new issue.

I still like the idea of using something like identify, but the problem I see with that is what about no drop weapons with a proc (i.e. a warrior cannot cast identify on his own weapon).
 
ahhh! good point i didnt realize this recomendation was racist against classes

I still like the idea of using something like identify, but the problem I see with that is what about no drop weapons with a proc (i.e. a warrior cannot cast identify on his own weapon).
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wtf did i think u wree a mage
 
If I recall right, on Live, you could cast Identify on another player and whatever that player is holding on his cursor will be the target of the spell. It doesn't work that way here?
 
Oualawouzou said:
If I recall right, on Live, you could cast Identify on another player and whatever that player is holding on his cursor will be the target of the spell. It doesn't work that way here?
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It does.
 
4 the record

moth eaten tree switch will proc at 56, but I have no clue what lvl it begins proccing.

I passed it onto another guildie while i wait for it 2 proc for my ranger (44), and fyi: the drifting death procs constantly so its a pretty nice wep (5/10 1hb)

wtb 60-62 cler spells....holla @ yer cleric
 
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