Pristine Instruments/Other overpowered pristine items

Spiritplx

Dalayan Elder
The whole pristine idea is a nice one, however, adding 10% to dropable instrument mods, seems a bit excessive. Having a dropable drum and flute that are equal to the highest mods in the game is a bit overpowered. Now bards don't have to camp Traek or wait for an Air drum as they can buy the best perc mod (on a kiting drum) in the game for a few hundred platinum. I suggest that instruments be untouched by pristine, or the no drops (raid instruments) get an increase to their mods. It just doesn't seem right to have raid items be worse, or just as good as 'easy to get' dropable loot. Instruments are already pretty worthless as is, making dropable ones just as good as raid ones makes them lose a lot of their value.

Feel free to add any other items that might be overpowered due to pristine~
 
Re: Pristine Instruments

the boost making dancer's tambourine the same mod as concubines makes me very very sad. It's a tough trial that is def worth the extra.1 mod getting concubines. Compared to an easy drop you can get with one night xp grinding in elds castle.

Same thing goes for Flute of the fribbit being equal to Coda

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Re: Pristine Instruments

Theres alot of items currently that might fall into the same situation as the drums.

Bonded blade of the torturer -- Pristine -- now 17/22. -- The rarity of the blade probably makes up for the fact of obtaining one yourself.

Dancer's Tambourine -- Probably easier to obtain yourself then Concubines or Traeks.

I Just think any request should cover more then just instruments and involve looking at all the tradeable items that are considered higher end.
 
Re: Pristine Instruments

Ponden said:
Theres alot of items currently that might fall into the same situation as the drums.

Bonded blade of the torturer -- Pristine -- now 17/22. -- The rarity of the blade probably makes up for the fact of obtaining one yourself.

Dancer's Tambourine -- Probably easier to obtain yourself then Concubines or Traeks.

I Just think any request should cover more then just instruments and involve looking at all the tradeable items that are considered higher end.

That is fine. Since Bonded Blade of the Torturer is a good item to talk about, this thread will now be used for any items that become overpowered when pristine. I just posted about the instruments as they affect me directly.

For the record, I do NOT have a Coda, and use a Flute of the Fribbit still, so don't think I am doing this for selfish reasons.
 
+10% is not added to instrument mods. They get a flat +1 (so instrument mod 2.0 becomes 2.1, NOT 2.2)
 
Wiz said:
+10% is not added to instrument mods. They get a flat +1 (so instrument mod 2.0 becomes 2.1, NOT 2.2)

This still puts Flute of the Fribbit at Coda level, and Dancer's Tambourine at Dragonskin Drum/Air Drum level. Having dropable items that are easily one groupable (even in the lower end, ie, 61-65) that are just as good as raid loot seems a bit :psyduck:
 
The argument on the instruments is that the best tradeable item is equal or better to the next tier no-drop item.

IE:
| Dancer's Tambourine | Perc | 2.5 |
| Dragon Skin Drum | Perc | 2.6 |
| Concubine's Tambourine | Perc | 2.6 |

Pristine Dancer's Tambourine becomes 2.6-- and I am thinking that getting a Dancer's Tambourine yourself, is EASIER then getting Dragon Skin Drum or Concubine's Tambourine.

Another Example:

Flute of the Fribbit | Wind | 2.4 |
Coda | Wind | 2.5 |

the % increase isnt really the point... if its only +.1 its still the same.
 
Lowered dancer's tambourine by 1 base (more in line with progression anyway) and raised coda by 1 base.
 
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