Low end bard DOT spells.

[lotox]

Okay I come with a simple problem , or rather a bit of confusion.

The level 18 bard spell:
http://www.angrygamer.net/sodwiki/index.php?title=Song:_Denon's_Disruptive_Discord
Is aoe , and a armor debuff.
It does 12 damage without a modifier at level 30 with 200 in energy and defense.


The level 30 dot:
http://www.angrygamer.net/sodwiki/index.php?title=Song:_Fufil's_Curtailing_Chant
Does 17 damage , with the same specifications however I am using a goblin drum at the same time which is supposedly a 100% modifier (8 damage without it , so ~)
It accordingly has a magic debuff , and is a single target dot.


My question is : Why does the single target dot do less damage then the aoe dot, I doubt any bard is using it for its debuffing ability. Especially in my case which all I do is run in a circle , In a group i find it way more effective to just use the level 25 nuke which does 49 damage or so without a modifier.


The other thing that comes up is the level 38 nuke which according to the wiki does a whopping:
41 (L38) damage.


I never used the level 18 aoe dot at its level but I figured I would give kiting a go and found this little conundrum

Personally I would like to see the 30 dot enhanced a bit , but I admit I'm not a spell designer nor do I know what wiz's or whoever it may be intentions are.



:dumb:

 

[Spiritplx]

There are several lower level songs that are not very good. Basically most of them are comparable to their Live counterparts and then at around level 40 do they start to get better to "compensate" for only being able to twist two songs. I think the lower end DoTs are not so great to encourage grouping. You shouldn't be soloing at those levels anyways unless you are lfg.

 

[lotox]

You shouldn't be soloing at those levels anyways unless you are lfg.

I used a druid to get me up to that level with some grouping mixed in , I admit I do it best in a group (It being what bards do) However being a druid spoiled me rotten and therefor I cant play anything without an ability to solo and I feel the need to nitpick things that dont work to my benefit.

While grouping should be encouraged , I think this limits bard dps when not tootin the flute and using that nasty level 25 nuke at this level range; which is ridiculous damage itself for 25 mana , 49-90ish dmg with the ability of firing twice (Bug I assume but eitherway)

As for why I solo'd or even tried to : Coming back from a week without internet (Lol thunderstorms) left me somewhat behind of my grouping buddies.

Also it was late and I wanted to see how well I could do heh.

 

[iaeolan]

with the ability of firing twice (Bug I assume but eitherway)

This is because the first hit is your initial cast and the next one is the melody starting it's pulses. Learn how it works and use it to your advantage for later levels dot kiting.

Denon's Disruptive Discord 12 damage without a modifier at level 30 with 200 in energy and defense.

Fufil's Curtailing Chant 17 damage using a goblin drum

Risk v reward for more ae damage. Single target dots are more secure and are only 1 target less you damage. Single target dots use the same instrument modifier as selo's and give you reasonable speed over the mobs compared to no modifier at that level.

My question is, why not use both?



Edit: Also, I'm pretty sure all of the early dots start off rather poop but scale up very nicely after a few levels

 

[lotox]

This is because the first hit is your initial cast and the next one is the melody starting it's pulses. Learn how it works and use it to your advantage for later levels dot kiting.

Risk v reward for more ae damage. Single target dots are more secure and are only 1 target less you damage. Single target dots use the same instrument modifier as selo's and give you reasonable speed over the mobs compared to no modifier at that level.

My question is, why not use both?



Edit: Also, I'm pretty sure all of the early dots start off rather poop but scale up very nicely after a few levels

yeah Dalayas beginners fed me alot of bogus answers regarding why it happened , if this is the case (And I trust it is) then thanks :dance:

This I did not consider and admit now seems like I overstepped

We discussed this in game , I did use both , After questioning a few bards the generalized answer I got about it being slow was A) like you said the levels being "weak" and B) not having that -> damned tambourine.



Like I said in game , and to liam ; it's not a huge issue and it wont stop me from being a bard. I just wondered if it was meant to be this way and after noting what is italicized I figure it it makes a lot more sense. thus being why I mentioned the next dot in line being way more hot then these 2.