Samus Aran
Dalayan Beginner
Hello all, this is Mortandad from SV.
There is an issue with some lich forms not working at all, I did a /bug but I'm writing this post to explain with more detail the problem.
This thing started when a someone on guildchat complained that his lich clickie wasn't adding mana regen.
They asked if a necromancer was on, and I offered my help.
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Metodology used to test this bug:
- Click off all mana regen buffs.
- Dump some mana.
- Check your mana regen while standing up, this "mana regen" incluides standard mana regen + AAs + tomes + ft.
- Cast a lich form spell.
- Check if mana regeneration from lich form is added to your "mana regen".
Spells used: (Edited)
Relic: Master of Death
Arch Lich
Lich
Call of Bones
Allure of Death
Dark Pact
As 06/11/2016 with my current gear I regen 11 mana points per tick while standing up (not in combat).
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Mana regen behavior, numbers:
No lich form, while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1008, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1011,
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1011 to 1019, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1022.
Mana regenerated per tick > 11 (this is my "mana regen", without any buffs).
If I cast Relic: Master of Death (converts 44 hp to 44 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1052, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1011.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1011 to 1063, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1022.
Mana regenerated per tick > 11 (I should regen 55)
If I cast Arch Lich (converts 35 hp to 35 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1043, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1011.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1011 to 1054, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1022.
Mana regenerated per tick > 11 (I should regen 46)
If I cast Lich (converts 20 hp to 20 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1028, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1031.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1031 to 1059, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1062.
Mana regenerated per tick > 31 (11 "mana regen" + 20 from Lich)
If I cast Call of Bones (converts 8 hp to 8 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1016, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1019.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1019 to 1035, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1038.
Mana regenerated per tick > 19 (11 "mana regen" + 8 from Call of Bones)
If I cast Allure of Death (converts 4 hp to 4 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1012, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1015.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1015 to 1027, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1030.
Mana regenerated per tick > 15 (11 "mana regen" + 4 from Allure of Death)
If I cast Dark Pact (converts 2 hp to 2 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1010, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1013.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1013 to 1023, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1026.
Mana regenerated per tick > 13 (11 "mana regen" + 2 form Dark Pact)
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The same metodology has been tried with WoN casted on me, while standing up:
"Mana regen" goes up from 11 to 19, while standing up.
If I cast Relic: Master of Death (converts 44 hp to 44 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1060, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1019.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1019 to 1079, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1038.
Mana regenerated per tick > 19 (I should regen 63)
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Additional info:
Sometimes, when mana ticks, base mana (1000) adds your "mana regen" (1011) > then peaks (using relic lich, 1052) > then returns mana base with added mana regen (1011).
Mana regeneration behavior isn't always the same, but in the end, mana regenerated it is.
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Edited: all lich forms tested.
This clearly shows that Relic: Master of Death and Arch Lich don't work at all, while lower level lich forms work as they should.
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I hope this information is useful and comprehensible.
Special thanks to Asmodina for helping me with the metolodgy used to test this issue.
P.D.: Excuse me for my poor English.
New edit: post overhaul.
There is an issue with some lich forms not working at all, I did a /bug but I'm writing this post to explain with more detail the problem.
This thing started when a someone on guildchat complained that his lich clickie wasn't adding mana regen.
They asked if a necromancer was on, and I offered my help.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Metodology used to test this bug:
- Click off all mana regen buffs.
- Dump some mana.
- Check your mana regen while standing up, this "mana regen" incluides standard mana regen + AAs + tomes + ft.
- Cast a lich form spell.
- Check if mana regeneration from lich form is added to your "mana regen".
Spells used: (Edited)
Relic: Master of Death
Arch Lich
Lich
Call of Bones
Allure of Death
Dark Pact
As 06/11/2016 with my current gear I regen 11 mana points per tick while standing up (not in combat).
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Mana regen behavior, numbers:
No lich form, while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1008, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1011,
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1011 to 1019, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1022.
Mana regenerated per tick > 11 (this is my "mana regen", without any buffs).
If I cast Relic: Master of Death (converts 44 hp to 44 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1052, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1011.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1011 to 1063, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1022.
Mana regenerated per tick > 11 (I should regen 55)
If I cast Arch Lich (converts 35 hp to 35 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1043, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1011.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1011 to 1054, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1022.
Mana regenerated per tick > 11 (I should regen 46)
If I cast Lich (converts 20 hp to 20 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1028, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1031.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1031 to 1059, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1062.
Mana regenerated per tick > 31 (11 "mana regen" + 20 from Lich)
If I cast Call of Bones (converts 8 hp to 8 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1016, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1019.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1019 to 1035, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1038.
Mana regenerated per tick > 19 (11 "mana regen" + 8 from Call of Bones)
If I cast Allure of Death (converts 4 hp to 4 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1012, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1015.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1015 to 1027, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1030.
Mana regenerated per tick > 15 (11 "mana regen" + 4 from Allure of Death)
If I cast Dark Pact (converts 2 hp to 2 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1010, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1013.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1013 to 1023, then in a second +/- mana goes up to 1026.
Mana regenerated per tick > 13 (11 "mana regen" + 2 form Dark Pact)
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The same metodology has been tried with WoN casted on me, while standing up:
"Mana regen" goes up from 11 to 19, while standing up.
If I cast Relic: Master of Death (converts 44 hp to 44 mana), while standing up (mana base 1000):
- First tick > mana base goes from 1000 to 1060, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1019.
- Second tick > mana base goes from 1019 to 1079, then in a second +/- mana goes down to 1038.
Mana regenerated per tick > 19 (I should regen 63)
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Additional info:
Sometimes, when mana ticks, base mana (1000) adds your "mana regen" (1011) > then peaks (using relic lich, 1052) > then returns mana base with added mana regen (1011).
Mana regeneration behavior isn't always the same, but in the end, mana regenerated it is.
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Edited: all lich forms tested.
This clearly shows that Relic: Master of Death and Arch Lich don't work at all, while lower level lich forms work as they should.
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I hope this information is useful and comprehensible.
Special thanks to Asmodina for helping me with the metolodgy used to test this issue.
P.D.: Excuse me for my poor English.
New edit: post overhaul.
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