I'd rather have Boon of the Lycanthorpe

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Maimai

Dalayan Beginner
I don't like the new nerfed Giantkin, it's fallen behind the relic nuke for most situations (unless you're grouped with a VERY super melee) which basically means we've been robbed of a pretty neat spell (Lycanthorpe) and given nothing in return.

Please could you revert it to 5 ticks, or make it extendable with SCRM (from 3 to 5) or give us Lycanthorpe back, 15% overhaste +stats +200 lifetap for 8 minutes was much better than this new waste of 300 mana :(
 
I'm currently adjusting how much damage it should do. It will probably be changed again after parsing is done but previously it was too powerful.
 
In my oppinion the old Lycanthorpe was a great spell that I used in every group and raid, the replacement can't be something mediocre and non-essential or it's just a big slap in the face to enchanters :(
 
Kjia and Maimai said:
In my oppinion the old Lycanthorpe was a great spell that I used in every group and raid, the replacement can't be something mediocre and non-essential or it's just a big slap in the face to enchanters :(
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That's a silly opinion, though.
 
What's silly about not wanting to lose a nice utility spell for another sub-par damage dealing spell that enchanters aren't supposed to be good at anyway.

Yes I know the utility is still there but it's way too costly for that purpose now, i'd rather you just replaced the useless visage line (doesnt stack with voice of kaezul) with giantkin instead, it seems more tailored to it.
 
I think the point was that he felt the spell as it was was overpowered.

I don't think he just absolutely needed to squeeze another damage spell in for Chanters, and thus Lycantrophe had to leave... I don't think anyone is arguing that Lycantrophe WASN'T a nice spell... I just think it's being stated that it was TOO nice and therefore it is no longer.

I'm not really speaking to whether it deserved that, or what it does to chanters since I don't play a high end chanter.... but I don't think pointing out that you liked the spell is going to get it back, since the reason it left was it was a bit too likable.
 
What bollocks, Lycanthorpe was not removed for being too nice, it was changed to another spell which was supposed to be better than it ( http://shardsofdalaya.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6338 ). Now however it's been crippled and Wiz is only talking about Giantkin in terms of its DPS which leads me to believe in his eyes its now just another Enchanter DPS spell, which we didn't want or need...
 
Kjia and Maimai said:
Yes I know the utility is still there but it's way too costly for that purpose now, i'd rather you just replaced the useless visage line (doesnt stack with voice of kaezul) with giantkin instead, it seems more tailored to it.
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Hey now, I employ HV often enough to be sad if it leaves.

In related news: Is the collab line broken? 'Cause I haven't been able to recharge my Cloak of the Wind for a while, and as near as I can figure it just doesn't help faction. Is this only at higher faction levels? If so, why? If you aren't kos it's very rare that you'd give a shit about getting that one extra step, it's usually ally or bust.
 
Kjia and Maimai said:
What bollocks, Lycanthorpe was not removed for being too nice, it was changed to another spell which was supposed to be better than it ( http://shardsofdalaya.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6338 ). Now however it's been crippled and Wiz is only talking about Giantkin in terms of its DPS which leads me to believe in his eyes its now just another Enchanter DPS spell, which we didn't want or need...
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Thanks for that thread link. I hadn't read it before. I'll keep my nose out... I posted accurately based upon what was in this thread, when Wiz made a comment that it was removed for being too powerful... but I see the bigger picture now. *pulls nose outta other peoples' business*
 
The point of the spell was to replace another "oh hey have the enchanter bot cast this" with a spell that would make an enchanter who was actively played contribute DPS on raids. It was a touch more powerful than I expected, and is currently being balanced.

Putting boon back would just be contributing to the problem of botted enchanters. No way, no how.
 
Destroy boon and change our DoTs into short duration high mana cost spells that incorporate lesser versions of the sapping-curse idea dependant uppon level. Voila ;)
 
Wiz said:
The point of the spell was to replace another "oh hey have the enchanter bot cast this" with a spell that would make an enchanter who was actively played contribute DPS on raids. It was a touch more powerful than I expected, and is currently being balanced.

Putting boon back would just be contributing to the problem of botted enchanters. No way, no how.
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Well as I said, I was only happy that boon was removed just because bots can use it was because the replacement was powerful...

It's pretty sad that now when it comes down to it we're just having the spell marginalised to be back in line with our previous DPS (which we could make with nukes, and giantkin has no progression of AA's to improve it), it was hardly the only spell in the game that belonged to bots and by changing it to spite them you've taken something useful away from enchanters who like to play solo on raids aswell (Giantkin being a pretty mean replacement too, melee's always saw it as their DPS and nagged me in tells constantly for it like it was a buff).

Also if buff botting is such a problem why don't you reduce all the 3 hour buffs (aego, focus, won, jb, haste) to 30 minutes and reduce their mana cost proportionally...
 
It might very well be too weak at the moment. Wait until evaluation is finished -- then you can make a case for its power, okay?
 
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