Harrowed Mantle

Gotcha. No, the worm isn't all/all, however, I believe that if you have mana, you can use it (including SK's, Paladins, only not Bards)). The mantle was not changed, but the worm was. It was made from striclty range to strictly ammo slot.

If you have a 100 mana mantle or something and swap it out for the Harrowed Mantle you only gain 100 mana (200 clicky - 100 from previous), so there's no real point in swapping. This is of course unless the 100 mana from the item doesn't go bye bye when you un-equip it..
 
100 mana ?
Shouldnt it give 200mana damages you 500 hps and 10 mins recast ?

This thread never dies !
 
in his example, he swapped out a mantle with 100 mana to click the harrowed mantle. Swapping out the 100 mana mantle means he just lost that 100 mana. So he gained 200 mana from the click on harrowed mantle, but lost 100 from swapping out his regular mantle, so he really only gained 100 mana.
 
bigdros said:
in his example, he swapped out a mantle with 100 mana to click the harrowed mantle. Swapping out the 100 mana mantle means he just lost that 100 mana. So he gained 200 mana from the click on harrowed mantle, but lost 100 from swapping out his regular mantle, so he really only gained 100 mana.
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"Only"?
 
i dont mean "only" like its not worth it, i was just answering the poster above's question as to why it wasnt giving 200 mana for that paricular example. I meant only 100 mana, as opposed to the 200 mana it gives you if you didnt just swap out a 100 mana mantle to cast the spell.
 
Doesnt that work out only if you swap out at full mana (why would you click the item at full mana :p)
 
Maimai said:
Doesnt that work out only if you swap out at full mana (why would you click the item at full mana :p)
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I honestly wasn't sure, to be honest. Does it work the same way as HP?

Edit: I just tested it and when I take off +HP or +sta items (i.e. +mana or +wis) I lose the amount of HP, even though I'm far under what I max out at even without the items. For example, if I'm at 4200/5000 and then take off an item I'll be 4100/4900 or something like that. So yes, you still lose that amount. I assume it works the same way for mana.
 
If you are at least 300 mana below max and unequip an item which has 100 mana more than the mantle, you will gain the full effect from the right-click of the mantle. It will increase your current mana by that much.
 
Xeldan said:
If you are at least 300 mana below max and unequip an item which has 100 mana more than the mantle, you will gain the full effect from the right-click of the mantle. It will increase your current mana by that much.
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Meaning mana doesn't act the same way as HP does?
 
Garison said:
Xeldan said:
If you are at least 300 mana below max and unequip an item which has 100 mana more than the mantle, you will gain the full effect from the right-click of the mantle. It will increase your current mana by that much.
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Meaning mana doesn't act the same way as HP does?
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With HP, when you hit 0 HP, you die.

With mana, when you hit 0 mana, nothing special happens.

Suppose you have 150 HP, remove a 100 HP item. You have 50 HP. You put on a 100 HP item -- you now have 150 HP.

So suppose you have 50 HP, and remove a 100 HP item. You die.

Suppose that mana worked like HP.
You have 150 mana, remove a 100 mana item, are at 50 mana, put the 100 mana item back on, and are back at 150 mana.

No problem.

Suppose you have 50 mana, and remove a 100 mana item. You end up with 0 mana. You put on your 100 mana item, and now have 100 mana.

Oh wait, problem. You just got mana from nowhere.

You'd have to implement negative mana to prevent it from causing a problem. Or just kill any player who hits 0 mana. Either would work.

;)
 
Yep, what Yakk said. Adding or removing items only takes from your max mana, it doesn't touch your current mana at all.
 
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