Greaves of the ancient
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Kirin Folken
Dalayan Elder
Goatface said:
Probely becauses there rather good legs for when you can get them.
No SK on them does seem odd, however many adepts (and tmaps) have very screwed up useable compared to the normal flow of gear. Thats just part of there quirks.
If you look at all of Traekoth's loot most of the gear has "classes missing" which was obviously intentional. If you somehow got the greaves changed to have SK then you would probably have about 5 more threads for adding classes to his various loot which would just be dumb.
to be honest... these legs are nice in the hp area but really are not something to wet ur pants over.. the ac is mediocre.. the other stats arent really something to smile about.. i would assume all plate classes would be included in on this one... just doesnt seem good enough to be so selective=/
Hadrienne
Dalayan Beginner
Kind of agree with Khador, if you farm in a 55 zone with a group and sell the earnings you can easily buy yourself a pair of deepmetal platemail greaves, which has 2 better ac, 1 extra slot, and only very slightly less resists/hp.
Casters can get some leggings off of a level 12 adept that give them (after leveled) 6 more ac than these level 55 adept tank leggings, which doesn't seem quite right, so I think some consideration should probably be taken toward improving them a bit.
Casters can get some leggings off of a level 12 adept that give them (after leveled) 6 more ac than these level 55 adept tank leggings, which doesn't seem quite right, so I think some consideration should probably be taken toward improving them a bit.
phroggonalog
Dalayan Master
the problem then is with farming, not the quality of the Greaves
deepmetal can take a character into tier 3, should it be so easy to obtain?
looking more closely at the Greaves of the Ancient vs. Deepmetal Greaves, it is pretty awesome that GotA is superior to DM in almost every way (after being leveled, that is): hp, resists, stats. it only lacks some AC, and of course a second aug slot.
HP is incredibly necessary for a tank, and a single item with 80-85hp on it that drops from an on tier mob is a gift, especially when it can compete with DM for ac
deepmetal can take a character into tier 3, should it be so easy to obtain?
looking more closely at the Greaves of the Ancient vs. Deepmetal Greaves, it is pretty awesome that GotA is superior to DM in almost every way (after being leveled, that is): hp, resists, stats. it only lacks some AC, and of course a second aug slot.
HP is incredibly necessary for a tank, and a single item with 80-85hp on it that drops from an on tier mob is a gift, especially when it can compete with DM for ac
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phroggonalog
Dalayan Master
no I hate that picture it is Gay
Hadrienne
Dalayan Beginner
I don't know, maybe other people have a much more difficult time making money, don't do splits in their group or something. But it seems to me, that the Deepmetal Greaves are a better piece of equipment which is obtained a fair bit more easily than locking, and hoping that every 3 days maybe you won't miss it when someone puts together a raid or that you're able to put one together yourself. I've seen some little dude that asks every single day if Traek's up, and doesn't seem to have been able to be on when people are raiding it. ... that seems like a lot of effort over just saving up some plats from grouping or farming?
I updated a previously existing thread, because usually it's considered poor forum etiquette to make 1000 topics on the same subject, instead of using search to find one that's there already
I updated a previously existing thread, because usually it's considered poor forum etiquette to make 1000 topics on the same subject, instead of using search to find one that's there already
phroggonalog
Dalayan Master
I don't know, maybe other people have a much more difficult time making money, don't do splits in their group or something. But it seems to me, that the Deepmetal Greaves are a better piece of equipment which is obtained a fair bit more easily than locking, and hoping that every 3 days maybe you won't miss it when someone puts together a raid or that you're able to put one together yourself. I've seen some little dude that asks every single day if Traek's up, and doesn't seem to have been able to be on when people are raiding it. ... that seems like a lot of effort over just saving up some plats from grouping or farming?
I updated a previously existing thread, because usually it's considered poor forum etiquette to make 1000 topics on the same subject, instead of using search to find one that's there already
Regardless, both DM and GotA are stupid good legs for that level and I do not believe that an upgrade is needed, even if one of those pairs of pants happens to be maybe a little better than the other pair (hint GotA is better because it is a sweet black color compared to the magenta of DM)
As for Sumelan I mean I don't know what to tell him he refuses to check on Traek even when he is next to a MoP location it's like okay if you want to know whether or not Traek is up don't be lazy go check yourself.
LASTLY your first point in your post (basically that it is easy for you to farm money for DM) is what I alluded to before, that MAYBE there is a problem with farming
donfolstar3
Dalayan Master
SHD can wear the Barbed Shadowscale Boots from Traek, other tank classes cannot. Their omission on the greaves is probably to balance this.
darksabbath
Dalayan Master
If the trade-off for the greaves is to lose the boots, I'll lose the boots in an instant.
phroggonalog
Dalayan Master
idk, those boots level up to 15 ac/77hp, isnt that pretty good for boots
darksabbath
Dalayan Master
My sk has stalker chitin boots (21ac, 15sta, 10cha). I am undecided if the other stats are really worth the trade-off of ac for them. Though affliction 5 is nice, but I rarely dot as is. Maxxed out the boots are decent (nice str boost, lol), but how many, many millions of xp to max them out?
Hadrienne
Dalayan Beginner
I guess I got spoiled by Oggok Plate, which the greaves leveled up to 23 ac with 10 agi and 25 hp, which I fought for in my 20s. So it just felt mildly disappointing that something I fight for in my 50's isn't quite a bit nicer. But, I can realize that both DM and GotA will be just fine for most of the content I'll be playing in. I mean, Oggok Plate carried me to 55 without any trouble.
As to farming, idk. I hear a lot of people complain about money, but I think it's just not paying attention to what drops where and whether or not you can sell them to players... and plain laziness of just waiting until you get enough AAs to get carried on a raid and start getting spoils from there maybe.
As to farming, idk. I hear a lot of people complain about money, but I think it's just not paying attention to what drops where and whether or not you can sell them to players... and plain laziness of just waiting until you get enough AAs to get carried on a raid and start getting spoils from there maybe.
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phroggonalog
Dalayan Master
welp for those who know me, you know how i gear my characters and how much they depend on the excellent adept gear
for those who don't know me, i abhor buying gear
in the words of zaela, if you already have something better than this adept gear, then use that instead and move on
EDIT: also ranseur the traek boots beat the stalker boots hands down, raw hp > ac advantage and the STA which can be gained through buffage
for those who don't know me, i abhor buying gear
in the words of zaela, if you already have something better than this adept gear, then use that instead and move on
EDIT: also ranseur the traek boots beat the stalker boots hands down, raw hp > ac advantage and the STA which can be gained through buffage
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darksabbath
Dalayan Master
Like I said.. I am undecided. If and when my sk catches a Traek raid, and they drop, will I worry about it. I have the stalkers, I don't have traek boots. Heck, I am xp-ing my icefeather belt just because I haven't found better (I'll update wiki with % tomorrow, just realized it leveled.)
They start at 11ac, that's a sizable drop. Along with the sta loss, they are probably about equal, with advantage to the stalker for the cha boost. (Ugly iksar need all the help they can get, you know.) And the str boost is meh, that's usually capped by buffs.
They start at 11ac, that's a sizable drop. Along with the sta loss, they are probably about equal, with advantage to the stalker for the cha boost. (Ugly iksar need all the help they can get, you know.) And the str boost is meh, that's usually capped by buffs.
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