Fresh 65 player looking for raiding experience

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3shirtlessmen

Dalayan Beginner
Hey everyone,

I've recently gotten my first character to 65 (a necromancer), and would love to hop in on some raids to begin learning they operate.

I'm not entirely sure how these things work themselves out (ie, join a raiding guild, look for pubs). So as an attempt to begin the process, here I am.

Looking forward to enjoying the more intense aspects from the game and the great community. :)

-Aryln
 
i'd find a zone you can farm at your tier, say like mielb or sorcs lab, or wpl treants if you have a healer box. try to get 10-20k and upgrade your worst items with ikisith droppables. there's plenty of pugs to join, especially on the weekend, but you'll probably need to be a bit higher to survive. people don't really raid tier 1-3 much anymore, since you can buy items that are better
 
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i'd find a zone you can farm at your tier, say like mielb or sorcs lab, or wpl treants if you have a healer box. try to get as much plat as possible and spend all of it on your charm
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Charms are literally the only equipment slot that you won't replace with raid gear eventually, and as a slot, are the single biggest upgrades you will ever ever ever get. If you were decked out in nothing but soft leather and headpants but had a good charm most guilds would be more than happy to lavish loot upon your slender death-fetished shoulders. As far as finding a guild, if raiding's what you really want, spend as much time as possible amassing plat and AAs, get your major quest lines as far as you can get 'em, and troll the guild section on forums. Gearing a new guildmember is super easy, and most guilds are more than willing to do it for someone who shows high play time and effort on their character.
 
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+1 for charms.

cian2 is correct as far as pugs go. If you don't want to join a guild right now, it probably is worth dropping 20k on boe gear to get up to the point where people will take you to pugs, but if you join a guild gear wont matter. Focus on charms, exp, and major quest lines (MQ/diety/faction/vah) if you want to get into the high end raid game.
 
at this point spending some money on boe items will give him a much larger upgrade by magnitudes and make it easier for him to find a guild and raids
 
"bind on equip", as in gear that is tradable. but really a lot of lower tier guilds will take anyone as long as they play a decent amount and it is a class they aren't already overpopulated with. Save for a charm upgrade. do it
 
bind on equip aka gear you can unbind and vendor and make almost all your money back when you replace it
 
Eisley means "unenchant". Unenchanting is a great option for a lot of BoE items when you're done with them.
 
it depends really. if you're able to buy it at near vendor price then he's right, but a lot of good bind on equip items for new 65s usually don't go for vendor price unless you're able to catch them when they're being sold off for a group split and you're the only one who bids on them. which is unlikely given how many people like to bid on and then turn around resell such items for profit
 
it's quite easy to find cita/bq drops for close to vendor price. i wouldnt recommend buying them from listsold. wait for group splits

the "omg save all your money for a charm" mindset is a holdover from the old deepmetal/shadow silk days, really. these days the items are better, cheaper, and in abundance.
 
There is more items, true. And they do go for decent prices that many could farm a short bit for the cash for them. But, a charm is the one thing you can't get in the raid game. You could buy yourself an awesome set of legs, or arms, et.c, etc., and then replace them the next day on a PuG. Then you are unbinding and hoping to make your cash back, or just selling them unenchanted to a vendor (and probably taking a small loss).
A charm stays with you, until you trade it in for the next one. So, in that regard, a charm is still the best investment in your toon (if you buy the right ones).
 
This is a time investment trade-off.

If lucky, I can raise 1k an hour (lucky). On average, it takes me about 2 or 3 hours to farm 1k. With that in mind, it would take, at 3 hours a night, 11 days straight to save for a worthwhile charm. Pretty extreme, from an efficiency standpoint, given that if I invested those hours into raiding, the cumulative benefit would vastly out-way any charm I could earn (experience, money, equipment).

How common is it that a guild bank loans out 50k for a charm? If 1.2 million is for the most expensive, 50k is a drop in the bucket.
 
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Yeah.. but I don't many guilds willing to loan 50k to some guy who just joined them. And most want you to put up half towards whatever charm you want. Of course, they will also expect you to pay them back the cash. The plat (and therefore time) investment in a charm shows guilds you are serious about improving your toon.
And if you can't get in a raid because you are too gimpy, that is a way to improve your toon nicely in the meanwhile. Or, you could sink that 38k plat into BoE gear, which you will soon replace most of. And then hope and pray that you can make the cash back when you unbind it. meanwhile, that charm trades into the charm vendor for a credit almost equal to initial cost.

Your call, just trying to give you advice to improve your toon that wastes the least cash. You will buy that charm eventually, one way or another, anyways. The charm, a diety aug, MQ aug, and the faction augs (BS/COI/SC, and dragon/giant) are solid ways to improve your toon that never go away.
 
I appreciate the advice!

Excellent point about charm re-sale. That makes charm purchase a lot less painful later on.
 
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