Flamewarder and Faction Binding

GuiardoTuneweaver

GuiardoTuneweaver

Staff Emeritus
Flamewarder (which comes from Skywatchers in DHK) before faction binding:

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[MAGIC ITEM] [LORE ITEM] [NO DROP]
Slot: HEAD
AC: 33
STR: +20 STA: +20 CHA: +15 WIS: +15 INT: +15 HP: +75 MANA: +25
SV FIRE: +40 SV COLD: +15
Class: WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD DRU MNK BRD ROG SHM BST
Race: ALL

Faction binding it give the following benefits:
Mana: 25 -> 60 (+35)
SV Fire: 40 -> 45 (+5)

For most of the classes on this item (those with mana: CLR PAL RNG SHD DRU BRD SHM BST), that's quite a nice boost. However, for the pure mele (WAR MNK ROG), the +5 to FR is barely worth the upgrade.

I would like to request that either some HP or AC be added upon faction binding as well.

I think that faction binding should provide a reasonable upgrade for all the relevant classes due to the work involved in attaining the faction, and the restrictions involved in keeping it.
 
Most faction binding gives very marginal upgrades. I think this helm is already super good for its tier, and the 5 extra fire resistance is a nice boost. I could see maybe a 5-10hp boost instead of the mana, but that would be about it.
 
Spiritplx said:
Most faction binding gives very marginal upgrades.
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From the same encounter, faction binding:

Azure Fistwraps of Rage gives 5 dex, 5 agi, and 1 reduction in delay
Brilliant Band of the Moon gives 5 str, 5 sta, 15 mana, 5 FR
Journal of the Skywatcher gives 2 int, 2 wis, 10 mana, 14 to various resists
Symbol of the Champion gives 5 ac, 5 str, 5 sta, 15 hp

I wouldn't call these very marginal. Flamewarder's upgrade isn't very marginal either for most of the classes that can use it.

:psyduck:
 
Marginal is a very relative term, but from what you just posted...the upgrade to Flamewarder seems to be perfectly in line.
 
Spiritplx said:
Marginal is a very relative term, but from what you just posted...the upgrade to Flamewarder seems to be perfectly in line.
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What he is asking for is a more across the board upgrade to it, instead of all of it dumped into mana since there is a large variety of classes on the item it makes sense.
 
AC and fire resist is awesome. If you ask me, I'd say lower the AC by like 3 or 4 on the non-faction bound item and keep it as is.
AS someone mentioned the improvement is pretty much in line with other faction bindings.
 
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