Exquisite Emerald Bracelet request...

Faylahs

Faylahs

Dalayan Elder
i have recently received this quest reward after many grueling hours of doing t-maps and after comparing it to the 3 other rewards i find it to be slightly...lacking. Keep in mind these are the Vah quest updated versions which take a bit more extra work to obtain.

Chalice:
[MAGIC ITEM][LORE ITEM][NO DROP]
Slot: RANGE
AC: 40
STA: +30 AGI: +30 HP: +145 MANA: +125
Damage Reduction: +5
Aggression: +3%
WT: 0.5 Size:TINY
Class: WAR PAL SHD
Race: ALL

Crystalline orb:
[MAGIC ITEM][LORE ITEM][NO DROP]
Slot: SECONDARY
AC: 45
Focus Effect: Healing Increment VII
STR: +10 STA: +10 CHA: +20 WIS: +10 INT: +10 HP: +95 MANA: +95
Flowing Thought: +3
Recommended level of 65.
WT: 1.0 Size:TINY
Class: CLR DRU SHM
Race: ALL

Golden earring:
[MAGIC ITEM][LORE ITEM][NO DROP]
Slot: EAR
AC: 11
Skill Mod: Offense +2
STR: +11 DEX: +11 HP: +110 MANA: +110
SV MAGIC: +11
Critical Strike: +3%
WT: 0.1 Size:TINY
Class: RNG MNK BRD ROG BST
Race: ALL
Slot 1 type 3: empty

Emerald Bracelet:
[MAGIC ITEM][LORE ITEM][NO DROP]
Slot: WRIST
AC: 15
CHA: +14 HP: +85 MANA: +75
SV FIRE: +4 SV DISEASE: +4 SV COLD: +4 SV MAGIC: +4 SV POISON: +4
Flowing Thought: +3
Recommended level of 65.
WT: 0.4 Size:TINY
Class: NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1 type 3: empty

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As one can see...the Chalice and the Orb simply blow the bracelet out of the water and the golden earring only "slightly" beats it as Offense mods are hard to come and the 3 crit is nice.
Overall the braclet seems rather...lackluster, 3 Ft is nice for sure but i feel the bracelet could use a minor bump to be on par with some of the newer BoE bracers available

Some simple buffs could include one or more the following:
a Stat upgrade (more hp ect.)
a focus effect such as Mana Con ect at around rank 6
An elemental focus around 2 or 4% range
a casting skill mod such as Evo/conj/Div at around 4-6 range
a decent chunk of elemental damage (like 20-50 range maybe)
a bracer proc of some form (not sure which would fit it best)

feel free to share any ideas or critiques.
 
Either a generic focus effect, a skill mod, or a proc would probably be the best way of making it equally useful for each int caster. I don't think any Ele damage or ele focus would be useful for all four classes that get it.
 
Good analysis. I've always wondered why the priest reward was pretty much equivalent to the caster bracer except that the priest reward has an extremely useful focus effect for the people using it. I would say put a proc on it because procs are more fun and caster bracers without procs make me :(
 
The bracer is fine. When that quest was added in it was a lot harder to find ft and 3 ft on the wrist was sick nasty if you didn't have that inner prison wrist.

ps: nerf all vah rewards even in 2014.
 
Honestly, if you wanted to boost it give it like +10 evocation, all the casters should like that. It will transition into a 2% spell dmg boost. With that and the belt from maps, lower tired could have an almost maxed evocation.
 
10 evocation is an insanely large boost, and really should not happen. Items with 5 skill mod are generally considered powerful, and worn just for the mod.

A focus 6-7, or small proc would seem appropriate, although like otcho said FT3 is pretty powerful at that tier, just because the other rewards are a tad stronger doesn't necessarily mean this should change.
 
Yup, caster bracer comparatively sucks the big one.
speakeroo said:
Honestly, if you wanted to boost it give it like +10 evocation, all the casters should like that. It will transition into a 2% spell dmg boost. With that and the belt from maps, lower tired could have an almost maxed evocation.
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If by all casters you mean half. Sure, Enchanters and Necros would gain from +evocation but no where near what a Wizard would.
For a proc does each wrist (tmap/vah) have the same proc? Two different procs? Would most procs end up favoring some casters more than others? Answer: probably.
How about a nice generally useful focus that matches the priest focus? Mana Conservation would be tits, but Range Increment would probably be the saner move. Useful to all casters and not in any way game breaking or clearly favoring one class over another. That or give a massive amount of +Abjuration (15?20?) because why not.
 
donfolstar3 said:
Yup, caster bracer comparatively sucks the big one.

If by all casters you mean half. Sure, Enchanters and Necros would gain from +evocation but no where near what a Wizard would.
For a proc does each wrist (tmap/vah) have the same proc? Two different procs? Would most procs end up favoring some casters more than others? Answer: probably.
How about a nice generally useful focus that matches the priest focus? Mana Conservation would be tits, but Range Increment would probably be the saner move. Useful to all casters and not in any way game breaking or clearly favoring one class over another. That or give a massive amount of +Abjuration (15?20?) because why not.
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pretty sure every item in this game favors one class over another by design...... That's why each class has itemization. If you want a game where all the gear is equally good for every class this is not your bowl of soup so to speak.

I think a proc would be a really fun way to add some power to this bracer, maybe some type of lower level armor debuff (to add utility) or low level DD (like in the 50-100 damage point range) or (if it is even possible for them to allow this proc from a range) maybe something along the lines of the cleric Zealot line of spells if they wanted to add utility and a little damage to it. Or possibly even some sort of short duration Reverse DS proc.

Just throwing ideas out to maybe snowball into something that might actually get implemented I doubt any of the later/more utility based procs will get used but thought hey why not they are all highly underused and seem to just kinda fall off in the game, Sure would be cool if clerics got some sort of runic/relic continuation of the zealot line of spells they are a lot of fun but that's for a different thread.
 
Cinny said:
pretty sure every item in this game favors one class over another by design...... That's why each class has itemization. If you want a game where all the gear is equally good for every class this is not your bowl of soup so to speak.
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I enjoyed the part where you put words in my mouth then insult me for speaking those words. Classic Cinny.

Look at the list of archetype rewards for this quest that just about everyone does and tell me where the other rewards are heavily favoring one class over another... take your time. Is it the tanks who all get tank stats? The healers who all get healing inc? The Melee who all get melee stuff? It isn't like the priest shield has Enhanced Control which is about what +Evocation would be.
 
donfolstar3 said:
I enjoyed the part where you put words in my mouth then insult me for speaking those words. Classic Cinny.

Look at the list of archetype rewards for this quest that just about everyone does and tell me where the other rewards are heavily favoring one class over another... take your time. Is it the tanks who all get tank stats? The healers who all get healing inc? The Melee who all get melee stuff? It isn't like the priest shield has Enhanced Control which is about what +Evocation would be.
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Except that + evoc benefits every class on there and enhanced control only benefits 2/3. What words did i put in your mouth champ?
You also contradict yourself in the first two sentances of your post saying only half the casters beenfit from evocation then turning around and saying enchanters and necros gain but not as much as a wizard..... Congratz.

Anyway i thought about it a little more and the bracer could also take an approach of adding some quality of life things to make it more desirable IE Duration increment or something to that effect.

Could also go with something as boring as damage increment.
 
Cinny said:
Except that + evoc benefits every class on there and enhanced control only benefits 2/3. What words did i put in your mouth champ?
You also contradict yourself in the first two sentances of your post saying only half the casters beenfit from evocation then turning around and saying enchanters and necros gain but not as much as a wizard..... Congratz.

Anyway i thought about it a little more and the bracer could also take an approach of adding some quality of life things to make it more desirable IE Duration increment or something to that effect.
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Hey sport, your illiteracy is an inspiration to us all.

The words you put in my mouth are "if you want a game where all the gear is equally good for every class". Never said that slugger.

Never said only half the caster benefit from evocation either buddy. The context was that the classes would "like that", ok friendo.

I imagine thinking a little bit probably caused you terrible trauma but thanks for the effort mommy's little darling. That you arrived at a generally useful focus effect, the same thing I did a while back, is just icing on the cake. Thanks for the icing angel cakes.
 
donfolstar3 said:
Yup, caster bracer comparatively sucks the big one.

If by all casters you mean half. Sure, Enchanters and Necros would gain from +evocation but no where near what a Wizard would.
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sure looks like you say half there to me. I have never heard a necro or enchanter complain about gear having evocation skill. and notice If you want a game never said anything about you saying you did i just said if. Reading is hard. Im sorry you are completely incapable of reading notice
Cinny said:
Could also go with something as boring as damage increment.
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as in im pretty sure the OP thought about those options already and wanted to do something interesting fun and different than the same old slap a focus on it and call it good.

Why you feel the need to take a condescending tone on every post you make toward someone is just stupid. Instead of coming and immediately insulting someone else's idea try providing constructive criticism and not being in general a male genital. Its annoying everytime you do it. and its just old.
 
All of these rewards should have been nerfed a long time ago, especially the tank and priest rewards. They are sickeningly good for something that you can get with 1-3 days of questing at tier 0. Prior to Ikisith, that Chalice didn't get replaced until Enthann stone.

Chalice should have 25 AC, 100 hp, 75 mana, 20 stats, and drop either the DR or Aggression.

Shield should literally be smeared in taco shit and then pissed on. Healing inc 7 and FT3 prior to like t7-8, much less prior to the raid game is just nonsense. Holy fuck this thing is stupid. Like it should have HI 5 at best, and 1ft.

Ear should have offense dropped, 1 crit, and stats slightly cut.

Bracer should have 1ft, and maybe add a minor proc or some INT to make up for it's loss.

Even being nerfed, these items would still be better than anything you can get for a while in their respective slots.
 
pretty sure the offhand was made for 2 reasons at the time (2009?)

1) not many people played healers, especially cleric. precious few have been dumb enough to play a mained cleric for a long period of time

2) it was difficult to get healing inc 7 at the time. pretty sure at the time, the ONLY realistic raid options were lower thaz air ring and IP gloves

similarly this also explains why the second best item is the tank range.
 
The offense and crit on the ear is the ONLY reason to use that over other gear. There is boe from ikky that would easily be better than it if you did that. God forbid there be quest gear people would actually use for once. The healer shield easily blows the other items away, though, so I could understand scaling that back.
On the topic of the bracer, the 3FT is very nice, but plainly just unimpressive, especially when compared to the other items. At the very least, it should gain a focus effect as mentioned (range, mana con), and maybe gain a small proc also.
 
darksabbath said:
The offense and crit on the ear is the ONLY reason to use that over other gear. There is boe from ikky that would easily be better than it if you did that. God forbid there be quest gear people would actually use for once. The healer shield easily blows the other items away, though, so I could understand scaling that back.
On the topic of the bracer, the 3FT is very nice, but plainly just unimpressive, especially when compared to the other items. At the very least, it should gain a focus effect as mentioned (range, mana con), and maybe gain a small proc also.
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A little lagniappe for the bracer would bring it in line with the other rewards.

PS the Exquisite Porcelain Chalice is awesome and best in slot for a long time...
 
I don't think the chalice is as good so much as every other range sucks for tanks for unknown reasons. The truculent is garbage. Enthann ruby is rare. Kalila is from a boss nobody ever kills. I cant even remember another range because they all suck ass maybe in the past you could get a stone from lower earth or something I might be imagining that. Where are my 100 ac bows. That said shield and range have always been way too good for the effort involved.
 
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