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Luccian

Luccian

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Just something interesting i saw today browsing the internet. So now everyone can stay loyal to SoD, instead of constantly talking about how great EQ Classic will be (i know i was guilty of this from time to time). Finally closure.

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It was a joke from the beginning. Why do you think it was taking years to develop eqclassic.org? When did they start? 2006? It's now basically 2009 and they wern't even half way through with the project!

The developers were very young and and had very bad attitudes from the beginning of the eqclassic forums. None of them knew what they were doing nore did they care about the large community that they decieved.

The big problem that finally got them into trouble with SOE was simply because they tried to play god with something that wasn't theirs. They excluded people from registering because they were bias with the community they already had. To exclude people from a project like that by shutting down the registration was a no no. You cannot act like eqclassic was yours to play god with. They did not have the rights to do such a thing.

The developers and many community members who were smart enough knew that eqclassic.org was never going to take off in plain sight. It was just a bunch of kids who decieved you and didn't really do much of anything but make videos with something that didn't even work properly. SOE will not be going for criminal punishment against the owner of eqclassic.org. No money was lost.

In order to recreate an old "********* classic" server, one would have to make it very different from "classic" in order to stay online. (i.e. most EMUs have dumb coding and bent rules in-game like flying around, being gods, no cast time, etc...)

No true classic server would ever emerge without it having to be somewhat different than classic in order to stray away from copyright. Even then they still could do something if they choose, but if it's not truely "classic" they won't lose money for no one wants to play a bent rules server.

All you true classic ********* fans need to bite the bullet and accept the fact that there will NEVER be a truely classic server. It just won't ever happen. Classic days are over, and will never come back.

By the way, those "developers" for eqclassic.org were all under the age of about 23. Do yourselves a favor and don't put your trust into a bunch of kids who brag about doing drugs constantly (tongpow) and living off of mommy and daddy (wizzel). They stole everything from "project norrath" and still couldn't finish it. There is a whole lot more the developers arn't telling the eqclassic community and before I let the cat out of the bag lets wait and find out if the kiddie scripters come clean.



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I'd take this with a grain of salt, there are people out there that don't want the EQC project to succeed. Some of them more verbal about it than others.

1 person's opinion on the matter and posted on the internet doesn't make the statement true.

Go log into the #EQC channel, while the project state is not as promising as it used to be at this moment in time, most people are ready to bash it to oblivion based on half-truths and rumors.
 
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Sounds like someone from Project Norrath is still butthurt about all the good Devs leaving to EQC because tcsmyworld was a terrible leader. EQClassic ran into some legal trouble just like any popular EQEmu server has. Does that mean their finished? Who knows, but it wasn't some scam like that bitter guy is making it out to be.
 
I dont think he meant scam as in "Haha jokes on you" i think he meant scam in the sense that they all had big dreams and no knowledge, which equated to what the project has become. Nothing.
 
EQC has been in development since before I started playing SoD in '05
I never saw that project as one that would get off the ground. At first it was because of the lofty goals which were claimed to be able to complete with such naive confidence, then some time later I checked the forums and saw how sparse and utterly sad they were (compiling stats of items taken from allakhazam on archive.org and admins putting them on the forums... not any sort of database...) and it sealed my conclusion that it was a massive pipe dream that would never happen before people moved on completely or died.

EDIT: decided to find out for sure. EQclassic is formerly projectEQ. projecteq.net ran from apr 13, 2004 - oct 24, 2007. eqclassic.org started oct 26, 2007

yea... 4.5 years of basically not shit. crash and burn you asshats
 
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iaeolan said:
EQC has been in development since before I started playing SoD in '05
I never saw that project as one that would get off the ground. At first it was because of the lofty goals which were claimed to be able to complete with such naive confidence, then some time later I checked the forums and saw how sparse and utterly sad they were (compiling stats of items taken from allakhazam on archive.org and admins putting them on the forums... not any sort of database...) and it sealed my conclusion that it was a massive pipe dream that would never happen before people moved on completely or died.

EDIT: decided to find out for sure. EQclassic is formerly projectEQ. projecteq.net ran from apr 13, 2004 - oct 24, 2007. eqclassic.org started oct 26, 2007

yea... 4.5 years of basically not shit. crash and burn you asshats
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You've got it all wrong.

ProjectEQ was started by this guy named Tcsmyworld back in 2004 with the goal of creating a live like database. Started with classic, moved to Kunark, Velious, etc etc. They would release updated databases so it was basically the standard EQEmu database for server operators. Was decent enough, but not very polished. Early on TCS randomly disappeared, and the project was passed on to a couple people until finally falling on Cavedude who's currently running it (and doing a great job). They're still going strong and are up to Planes of Power I think.

Awhile ago TCSmyworld comes back claiming the project was stolen from him and being run by 'tyrannical dictators' or some shit, pulls a hissy fit trying to sabotage the project.

Comes back a few months later, starting a NEW ProjectEQ that's going to be Classic-Velious only. Has some really really old packets of information from way back when to help build the database, and along with a new team starts working on an older version of the client. New team quickly realizes he's an insane idiot and breaks off. They start EQClassic. TCS sticks with his project (pretty sure they renamed it Project Norrath to avoid confusing with the old PEQ).

So no, I don't know where you're getting this idea that EQClassic has been around for 5 years. It's been around 1. I have no idea if it will ever actually release, but I do know they have made substantial progress on it.

And why are you so angry about it?
 
My info comes from a forum post 2 days after EQClassic website opened entitled "ProjectEQ is now EQClassic"
"I guess the best developers on the EQ Classic server broke off from ProjectEQ and are continuing the project on their own."

Credible or not EQClassic supports the claim
Posted Oct 23rd 2007 on EQClassic.org:
" The project has undergone some turbulence in the past few days when the developers split from the original name to continue development under a different name and a better organized foundation."


Prove me wrong with some references
 
iaeolan said:
My info comes from a forum post 2 days after EQClassic website opened entitled "ProjectEQ is now EQClassic"
"I guess the best developers on the EQ Classic server broke off from ProjectEQ and are continuing the project on their own."

Credible or not EQClassic supports the claim
Posted Oct 23rd 2007 on EQClassic.org:
" The project has undergone some turbulence in the past few days when the developers split from the original name to continue development under a different name and a better organized foundation."


Prove me wrong with some references
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http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.projecteq.org

That's the Project EQ the quote is referencing.

Projecteq.net = The PEQ that's 5 years old and is still going strong (not related to any classic ********* project.

Projecteq.org = Was the PEQ that split into EQClassic. Only 1 year old.

Tcsmyworld decided it would be a cool idea to name his new project after the already existing one to create as much confusion as possible!

Ikaa|LoveYums said:
By the same token, why do you defend it so vehemently?
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I... don't really know. I do hope this server eventually opens up, I'm really interested on seeing whether or not a Classic EQ server would even be fun anymore.
 
I am not sure why we are arguing semantics.

I honestly do not think it would have lasted past the novelty factor unless the devs decided to keep changing and molding the game but who knows?

I might have tried it out even though I do not think I would have continued to play it. In the same token I am happy to see the small influx of refugees we have acquired.
 
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Elysium said:
I'm really interested on seeing whether or not a Classic EQ server would even be fun anymore.
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tbh, prob not. Much of the fun, at least for me, was derived from basically being ignorant of the game. Creepy ass dark elves raiding gfay, the long journey from Gfay to Freeport, seeing an ogre for the first time, and actually the first time I stumbled through the dark forest lost and found felwithe was a pretty amazing part of the game.
Beyond that, SoD exceeds original EQ in most aspects except the most noteable PVP and alongside languages
 
My basic point was more or less served. If you are going to question one persons stance on one side of a debate, prepare to present your own.

If you cant, leave it out of the argument entirely.
 
The server is not dead, development, testing and progress of EQClassic is still being made. What I was told is that the web site hadto be brought down because SOE was threatening legal action over copyrighted images on EQC's main page.

Here is the official EQClassic IRC, go here for updates on the project.

irc.peeringSA.net
#eqc (will prolly need to register first by joining #help)
 
Kirium said:
What I was told is that the web site hadto be brought down because SOE was threatening legal action over copyrighted images on EQC's main page.
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If it were that simple I'm sure the whole site wouldn't be brought down
 
I seem to recall a few months of silence before SoD was born around here. Who knows, who cares in the end though. We have SoD and it is all that could be needed. A living server that changes with the interaction of the players and actually responds to ideas from the players.
 
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