Enchanter Empower and GoE overwriting issue

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nocturnal

Dalayan Beginner
Currently as you all know Glory of Enthan overwrites Empower, which is very annoying
when it comes to raid.
Here is how it happens: You have a 18 man raid with lets say 3 tanks. Each tank needs an empower.
You cast GoE(it hits whole raid), then all the tanks must click off GoE so they can receive Empower,
then you cast emps on all the tanks.
What happens if melee dies? right, he needs fresh haste. You have an options to cast GoE and start buffing tanks over again just becouse GoE overwrote Emps or cast single haste such as vision of grandeur with lower haste % and stats.
I think making empower > goe on overwriting would have made all enchanters, tanks and melees happy.
 
I think this is a good suggestion. I really hate whenever I just got an Empower and someone comes up and buffs me with Visions of Grandeur. I think adding something minute to empower just to make it not get overwritten by other forms of haste would be A+.
 
You could just cast empower on the melee that died. Or move the tanks away. I like GoE overwriting empower because it is less casting for enchanters. If tanks want empower they can just click off goe and the raid moves on.
 
ryutakin said:
You could just cast empower on the melee that died. Or move the tanks away. I like GoE overwriting empower because it is less casting for enchanters. If tanks want empower they can just click off goe and the raid moves on.
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did you read my post? you make no sense
 
Yes, please change empower to overwrite goe- every damn enchanter on the server will rejoice. It really is a pain in the ass on raids waiting for all the tanks to click off goe for empower. Sure, it works the way it is now- its just a really annoying thing that could be changed to speed up raid recovery time. Sure you can argue "oh you need faster, more attentive tanks obviously, blah blah blah move people etc- " but when you are the one playing the class for hundreds of raids maybe you'll understand.
 
This would be wonderful. Could also just make it so that neither buff overwrites the other, so you can cast emp first or if you try to emp someone with GoE it will also not overwrite.
 
I like this idea, makes perfect sense what nocturnal said.

What I also never understood was why Swift like the Wind overwrites empower.. its the same haste minus the stats so emp should be higher priority imo.
 
I think this idea has been brought up many times, but nothing has happened.

If GoE/Emp were made to stack like WoN/Focus, the problem would be solved.

Shit like SLTW overwriting emp is a pita when you get in a pick up group with a shaman.
 
i support this product/idea because nocturnal made me. but i like the stacking like won/focus idea though
 
one possible solution is to order haste by AC first then by haste as i think (not 100%) emp is the only haste with AC. Then the order will go emp followed by haste stacked in order goe down.
 
The stacking code is scary and intimidating. I tried untangling it, and it beat me up and took my lunch money. I ran back home but that was a mistake, and now it knows where I live. Every night I look out the window, and I see it. Not doing anything, but staring. But I just know they are waiting. Waiting for me to drop my guard. Waiting for me to show a sign of weakness, or forget to lock the door, or to go out by myself at night. There is no rest. There is no mercy. Only the SoD spell stacking code. Oh, and Packetloss.
 
Zaknafean said:
The stacking code is scary and intimidating. I tried untangling it, and it beat me up and took my lunch money. I ran back home but that was a mistake, and now it knows where I live. Every night I look out the window, and I see it. Not doing anything, but staring. But I just know they are waiting. Waiting for me to drop my guard. Waiting for me to show a sign of weakness, or forget to lock the door, or to go out by myself at night. There is no rest. There is no mercy. Only the SoD spell stacking code. Oh, and Packetloss.
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Overwhelming win right there. Hahahaha
 
bump.
oh and on a side note : switching enchanters still causes raid to crash. thats due to a shared mind, i quess.
 
i can believe how hard it can be to get stacking right in sod SoE still has stacking issues. its just a flawed system. think a work around for stacking issues would just to let Everything Stack but only allow the stronger buff to effect your stats the weeker one should give you a Negtive effect spell like Death fatigue and depending on what the Negtive Effect is named you should look to those stat buffs and decide witch one you wanna keep.

but thats to much programing so i suggest just going with the punches
 
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