Dagger whine thread

Otcho

Dalayan Pious Diety
Nothing of the such, but after the changes entropy from rust apparently had no changes to its ratio. Its currently 15+1cold/18 and putting its ratio at/above shanker and close to green mist. Considering its from clockwork who is a tier 6 pansy this seems problematic.
 
Ice gouge is currently 15+3/20 letting it get a pretty high ratio, I dont believe this has been changed either. It was always a pretty terrible dagger before this change and if that could be considered it would be awesome :p

Resonant icicle is another offender 14+1/17 although thats not too bad considering orator isn't a total joke.

Twilight rapier(17/21? i forgot already) seems to be higher then stone etched dirk(16/22) from powater which is :psyduck:. Parcelain dagger is 16/26 which is :psyduck: too

I remember seeing a trippy piercer from pofire vahliad too that had a good ratio if i remember.
 
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Resonant Icicle is okay where it is in my opinion. If you assume that the elemental damage will land 75% of the time, its averate ratio isn't as high as Obsidian Shanker.

Icegouge might get a slight change.

Id rather it be better then obsidian shanker anyway :p, fuck ulkag and all of his loot.

And no zedaine I dont mean fidelity. I mean the vahliad crested spear or whatever he drops

also ninja edit to the second post
 
Alright after some looking

Touch of Chaos, 14dmg 27 delay (not sure if changed, or what tier it is from)
Magebane 12dmg 17 delay
Bonesunder 13dmg 19 delay(looks changed)
Dagger of the Chill 14dmg 5cold 28 delay (looks unchanged)
Tarnished Phlebotemy Needle 14dmg 2disease 21 delay (looks unchanged)
Venom, Bane of Life 15dmg 1poison 20 delay (looks unchanged)
Akzalk, Shard of the Mirror 16dmg 20 delay (looks unchanged)
Flame Serpent Fang 15dmg 19 delay (possibly no intention in changing this one)

As for Twilight Rapier, it is now at 17/22 which is nice but it seems too close to where Strategist's Dart is now at (17/21). Or maybe it's not and i'm dumb.

Also Eyate lol @ frostwrath in bank
 
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Alright after some looking

Touch of Chaos, 14dmg 27 delay (not sure if changed, or what tier it is from)
Magebane 12dmg 17 delay
Bonesunder 13dmg 19 delay(looks changed)
Dagger of the Chill 14dmg 5cold 28 delay (looks unchanged)
Tarnished Phlebotemy Needle 14dmg 2disease 21 delay (looks unchanged)
Venom, Bane of Life 15dmg 1poison 20 delay (looks unchanged)
Akzalk, Shard of the Mirror 16dmg 20 delay (looks unchanged)

As for Twilight Rapier, it is now at 17/22 which is nice but it seems too close to where Strategist's Dart is now at (17/21). Or maybe it's not and i'm dumb.

Also Eyate lol @ frostwrath in bank

Considering twilight rapier is from 3.1 which can be beaten by any well set up group of 65's in purchasable gear and a 100+ aa's it bothers me that its comparable to the raid daggers. Yeah it takes effort to get it to drop even more so that hes perma camped for vah but should it really be comparable to or better then the water/entropy/valor daggers.

Also thank god bonded blade got a nerf, always drove me insane that you could purchase the best dagger that made all the 16 damage ones useless.


Eustace never came through with his promise of rogue/ranger on frostwrath
 
What is bonded blade now out of curiousity?

First thing I thought when this happened was oh fuck, sharp little claw will be awesome, then I realized it was slashing, and immediately stopped creating a rogue to get it.
 
As for Dagger of the Chosen, it's 10/12, but seems to be doing far less BS damage (used to be 17/## i forget, you all know it) but of course more DPS over time, though i havn't parsed. If the change is meant to make ratio the prime factor in BS damage, surely i should be doing more or the same BS damage as before- spent a few hours in rust and highest BS i was was maybe 2k crit as opposed to 3-4k crits. ~ Playing on Kiang.
 
that would explain why mercy was doing worse backstabs than shanker. i look forward to seeing things actually working =p
 
Good to know :3 I wasn't that unhappy with the new ratio DPS but heh i do like seeing those large crit numbers ;)
 
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