Can someone reccommend me a class?

ForbiddenKingdom

Dalayan Beginner
Heya, i'm starting up playing Shards of Dalaya pretty quick here, and i would like someone to reccommend to me a class.

I'd like a class that can do alot of different things, but isn't too easy to play, i'd like to not be able to watch TV while playing.

I was thinking Bard might be good, but i was also thinking about Shaman, can anyone give me a nice overview of both classes?
 
Bard has tremendous potential for watching TV while playing...as does shaman.

Either can be very busy though...depends on how much you want to do during combat to help out your group.

Enchanter or monk are usually pretty busy as well. All depends on the group really. I know I say this every time one of these posts comes up, but play whatever you think will be fun for you.

As far as an overview of those classes I would recommend reading the wiki and checking into their abilities there.
 
A good necro needs to be active 100% of the time. Quite some utility, nice damage potential, ability to pull and so on.


Every class played to its full potential requires attention, some more then others so yeah - go with what you enjoy most.
 
luciferblack said:
Bard has tremendous potential for watching TV while playing...as does shaman.

Playing a bard efficiently means that you are constantly clicking buttons. Sure, we do not have to "twist" here as bards did on Live, but between twisting dots and using nukes, as well as dispelling/mezzing/mana draining/etc, we keep pretty busy. You can bot a bard a lot easier on SoD than you could on Live, but you still lose a lot of efficiency if you don't pay attention to it closely (most detrimental songs last a whopping 3 ticks).

I think bards and shamans are fun as hell to play, and both are great classes (since all classes on SoD are useful). I would also recommend necromancers if you want versatility and a good DPS class. They are kind of like a bard in the aspect of them clicking a whole bunch of different spell gems during a fight.
 
If you are very serious about wanting to be busy 100% of the time, there is no way that ANYONE could every deny that enchanter fits this bill. If you play the class right, you burn calories faster than on a treadmill :haw:
 
I'm so busy as a ranger that I can't box a second character unless I go melee, which lowers my dps.

Rangers can attack from a distance with a bow, cast spells, and do decent melee dps. Once you get a good bow, you'll have to press the Ranged Attack key every 2-6 seconds, depending on the speed of your bow.

Only thing is, rangers aren't vital to a raid like healers/tanks/chanters/shammies are. So if you need that sense of importance, rangers aren't the way to go. They do nice dps, but so do rogues, wizards, etc.
 
Finkk said:
I'm so busy as a ranger that I can't box a second character unless I go melee, which lowers my dps.

Rangers can attack from a distance with a bow, cast spells, and do decent melee dps. Once you get a good bow, you'll have to press the Ranged Attack key every 2-6 seconds, depending on the speed of your bow.

Only thing is, rangers aren't vital to a raid like healers/tanks/chanters/shammies are. So if you need that sense of importance, rangers aren't the way to go. They do nice dps, but so do rogues, wizards, etc.
rangers click the same buttan repeatedly, which makes them occupied, but not really... involved imo.

if you're in a group taking single pulls constantly, chances are, you'll be in TV mode no matter what class you play. If you're taking tougher pulls, tanks/healers/CC are probably the most involved. keep aggro on everything, run to the wizard who just crit 3x to taunt off=tank. healer is dropping a heal on tank, quick heal on wizard, quick heal on self, HoT on tank, big heal on tank. Enchanter would be slowing, debuffing, rune'ing, interrupting...

if you're one of "the essensials" in a group, you'll have essential roles no matter what. if you're not, you'll have the tendancy to just DPS and stuff.
 
Aaubert said:
rangers click the same buttan repeatedly, which makes them occupied, but not really... involved imo.

Very true. Something to consider about all classes. If you play a rogue, for example, you're one of the busiest classes, but all you're really doing is running up to the mob's ass, turning autoattack on and spamming your backstab/evade keys.

This is one of the reasons I fell in love with playing a cleric when I finally started one in SoD. It had not been my intention to main one until I had boxed him into the 50s as a bot with a warrior.
With a cleric, you aren't a busy class, but you have to use your brain. You have to do the right thing at the right time. It is a class where player skill makes a very big difference (maybe not the biggest of the classes... but one of them). This becomes prevalent at later levels in high end groups and even more so in raids. 1-40 is boring and mind-numbing if you're maining the class. My advice, if you take up healer (be it druid, cleric, or to a lesser extent, shaman), is to box a tank up with them - preferably paladin, but the others work fine too.
 
savagechesecak said:
If you play a rogue, for example, you're one of the busiest classes, but all you're really doing is running up to the mob's ass, turning autoattack on and spamming your backstab/evade keys.

One of the busiest classes is the only true part about this. Have you even played a rogue here? They're situational damage meaning if the mob turns, gets rooted, whatever, you need to move to maximize your damage. You can't "spam" your evade key. You need to have attack off before you can attempt to evade. That can be done via hotkey, but you have to watch for it to refresh. It's rare that something is pulled into the group and sits in one spot for my rogue to just park behind it and turn on attack and spam backstab. Not even taking into account using stamina draining styles to increase the effectiveness of your group...

I choose not to box much these days, but it's easier for me to effectively box my cleric than to effectively box my rogue.
 
I think another question you have to ask yourself how dependent on gear do you want to be?>

Being your first toon here, I would say shy away from melee toons. Melee Toons require A LOT more gear to be effective then caster toons.

Beast Lord I always thought was another "active" Style classes since they do a bit of everything.

Also how much soloing do you plan on doing?

If you plan on soloing a lot, not being dependent on gear, and being very active... then Necromancer is definitely the class to go with. If you feel you will be grouping a lot, but still not dependent on gear, Enchanter is a very nice choice.

If gear doesn't matter to you.... Bst and Bard are very nice picks.
 
luciferblack said:
One of the busiest classes is the only true part about this. Have you even played a rogue here? They're situational damage meaning if the mob turns, gets rooted, whatever, you need to move to maximize your damage. You can't "spam" your evade key. You need to have attack off before you can attempt to evade. That can be done via hotkey, but you have to watch for it to refresh. It's rare that something is pulled into the group and sits in one spot for my rogue to just park behind it and turn on attack and spam backstab. Not even taking into account using stamina draining styles to increase the effectiveness of your group...

I choose not to box much these days, but it's easier for me to effectively box my cleric than to effectively box my rogue.

I appreciate your insinuations that I am "teh noob." This isn't the place for argument, however, so lets not shit up the thread.
 
savagechesecak said:
I appreciate your insinuations that I am "teh noob." This isn't the place for argument, however, so lets not shit up the thread.

I never insinuated you were "teh noob". I asked if you had ever played a rogue here. You didn't answer. I still say rogue is a very busy class and your statements about spamming backstab and evade are without merit. No shitting up about it.

EDIT: I'm not meaning to sound like I'm dismissing your opinion, but having played a lot of rogues and a lot of other classes...all I'm saying is that I find rogues to be one of the hardest classes to box effectively. That's all.
 
I think the distinction he was trying to make is that even though you have intricate timing or whatever makes you a super rogue, but in the end, no matter how you gusy it up a rogue's only real job is to run in and stab things, whereas a shaman might be busy in a different way, healing, slowing crippling and dotting.
 
Whether this helps your decision on class or not........... There are a Crapload of shammys in game...but not too many bards. But the bards that I have grouped with....were quite busy and did the group justice (non boxed bard ffs). They can even CC....so they are busy imo.

Shammys? Slow...dot...patch heal....buff.....rinse and repeat. Important class....but if I had to reroll and choose? I'd try a bard out.
 
robopirateninja said:
I think the distinction he was trying to make is that even though you have intricate timing or whatever makes you a super rogue, but in the end, no matter how you gusy it up a rogue's only real job is to run in and stab things, whereas a shaman might be busy in a different way, healing, slowing crippling and dotting.

This is precisely what I meant. Yes, I've played rogue. Yes, rogue is more difficult to box. However, rogue isn't more difficult to box because its more involved, but rather because you have to switch back to that box very regularly to backstab and evade.
 
Be an Enchanter, even though in end game raids and such for the moment you dont really do a whole lot during battles. you are still important to the raid as whole (if that the route you want to go)
If you dont care about raids, chanters are just as desirable in groups for their clarity line spells, CC, and haste
 
Shaman is bar none the busiest of all classes if/when they choose to be. A good shaman will canni and torpor/slumber of the beast for mana or die trying if needed.
 
Shaman is bar none the busiest of all classes if/when they choose to be. A good shaman will canni and torpor/slumber of the beast for mana or die trying if needed.

I also envy the fact that shaman, can have great back up heals (and in some situations main heals), awesome debuffing power, and pretty good dps when they want to churn it out. However, like Knowom said, in order to really get the most out of part or all of those things the shaman will have to stay very busy.
 
A good bard is very busy, and will find no time for TV. Especially if you decide to solo. If all you do is turn on your static buffs, and throw up a dmg song..yes, you'll be bored looking at the TV, but you'll not be doing the class justice (that is just a bot). A good bard would be cycling through multiple dmg, CC spells, and such. And maybe even standing in and doing some melee dps.
A decent pulling group keeps a bard busy. If your bard is bored, either you are pulling to slow, or you have a damn good enc along.

As for being an equipment dependent class, we can be, but once you get selo's, the ability to kite makes it easy for you to earn the cash to buy your equipment. It also means you don't "have" to upgrade as much, because if you master kiting, you can keep enemies at bay easily while making exp and cash.
 
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