Boxing Combo Thoughts,

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Hello, I have been a long time EQ player (since 2001 to be exact) and came across this server and was giving a few 2boxing combos thoughts. Let me know what you think or give any better suggestions

Cleric/Paladin
Cleric/Ranger
Cleric/Wizard

I have played all these classes on retail, but don't know what would be most beneficial on this server.
 
It all depends on what you want to play really, and what you want to do in game. A good mained cleric will not have a problem finding groups or a guild. Lets go through them combo by combo:

Cleric/Paladin:
The Paladin will be very geardependent so you will have to expect putting a lot of cash into his gear in order for him to be useful. If/When geared, this combination makes for great exp possibilities though.
You might have problems finding groups or guild for the paladin until he is properly geared and aa'd, there's a LOT of paladin alts floating around on the server. If youre looking to join a guild its likely that they'll be most interested in your cleric. If you want to make this combo work for exp you will have to spend most cash on the paladin. That might not be a smart thing.

Cleric/Ranger:
This is probably the best combination actually. You should be able to solo, shouldnt have problems getting groups and the combo isnt as gear dependent as the cleric/pally combo. Also the self ds rangers get could make for great ae dmg when tanking if he is well geared. Both classes would be welcome addition in most groups and guilds.

Cleric/Wizard:
also a good combination when looking for groups and guilds. But perhaps not the best combination for when youre farming on your own.
 
I agree with Glamrin's assessment, but i also wanted to add something. With cleric/paladin, they have some of the same lines of buffs, and the cleric's buffs in those lines are better, so your pally's buffs will mostly go unused aside from some self buffs and the SSS line.

With cleric/ranger, the ranger will have a very different set of buffs, making your duo a more well rounded team. High dps, moderate tanking ability if geared, a variety of spells to add utility, this seems like the strongest overall of the three combos to me.

When I think of cleric/wizard, the question of duoing mechanics comes to mind. Wizard tank and cleric heal? idk bout that, maybe if you are geared well, but even then, wizard is pretty squishy. Cleric tank and heal and wizard burn? Could work well, but cleric would have a hard time holding aggro over a wizard. Kiting? Wizards kites well by themselves, and having aego and an occasional heal could increase survivability in panic situations, but neither class has SoW, which would be ideal if you wanted a buffbot nearby, and the cleric would be little more than a buffbot. Maybe a rooter or nuker, but but it seems that the cleric's true potential doesnt come in to play as much in a kite situation. If you are happy with that, all good.
 
I am just gonna comment on the Paladin/cleric. Paladins are low dps, so the cleric is not the best healer for a tank, if you are boxing by yourself. But it will work.

If you want some player made gear and you are willing to work for it. Take up mining, skill up and mine your own ore plus one stack and I will make it for you at no cost (NOT Deepmetal). And once you get to Mithril ore, you can sell the ore for cash. But I warn you, it is a boring skill.

http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Mining
http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Blacksmithing#Mithril_Armor
 
Yeah, I was heavily leaning towards the cleric/ranger combo, but was a little discouraged when I saw they didn't get Headshot, which is fine but it was my favorite AA for my retail Ranger :)

Notpit thank you very much for the offer I will try to hit you up in game sometime.
 
If you are interested however in the extreme high end, go with cleric/paladin. You will be able to duo most things, including low tier raid mobs if you cram enough gear and aa's onto your toons. You will also be able to duo far harder content than if you had selected the other combinations, and as your gear, and experience increases, you will find ds, and melee doing most of your work for you.

Another side benefit. Even if you get bored with both, you will end up with 2 decent buffbots, one for aego and later raego, and the other for sss, which is never a waste. Whereas with either of the others, if you get bored, too bad.

You are also way more likely to be able to find appropriate tiered groups with a tank and a healer, than with dps, as there are far more classes competing for dps slots.
 
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Well, I have already started a Ranger/Cleric combo, and yes shouldve went paladin, but I still have 2 buffbots, for SoW, Damage Shields and that predator buff (if its available on this serv)
 
nah you did the right choice on ranger. There isnt room for that many extremely highend paladins to get the gear they need to be that highend. Most people who play those highend paladins play someone elses paladin, not their own, at that tier. For someone who dont have a cashmachine to get them started you chose the right combo. Thing is that as a paladin youre not likely to get a guild that throws all that gear on you unless youre already at a useful level. That means lots of aa's (and to get them its easier if youre geared) and it means good bought gear. As a paladin expect to put down 20k per slot to be at a decent place + clickies, + atleast 230k for a charm, if you wanna be even close to becoming useful. Farming that amount of cash with the crappily geared paladin+cleric will suck. Farming that cash on the not so geared ranger+cleric though = way easier. Basically even if you want that paladin in the long run, it will be faster to get him to where you need him if you get that ranger up to 65 first, to farm cash for him.

Also sure, it will be easier to get groups levelling up as paladin+cleric, since you basically have that group with your own toons. However, if your tank isnt geared the exp from that group will suck. Getting a group as a cleric isnt that difficult and if you get hold of a geared tank leveling up will be way faster.
 
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nah you did the right choice on ranger. There isnt room for that many extremely highend paladins to get the gear they need to be that highend. Most people who play those highend paladins play someone elses paladin, not their own, at that tier. For someone who dont have a cashmachine to get them started you chose the right combo. Thing is that as a paladin youre not likely to get a guild that throws all that gear on you unless youre already at a useful level. That means lots of aa's (and to get them its easier if youre geared) and it means good bought gear. As a paladin expect to put down 20k per slot to be at a decent place + clickies, + atleast 230k for a charm, if you wanna be even close to becoming useful. Farming that amount of cash with the crappily geared paladin+cleric will suck. Farming that cash on the not so geared ranger+cleric though = way easier. Basically even if you want that paladin in the long run, it will be faster to get him to where you need him if you get that ranger up to 65 first, to farm cash for him.

Also sure, it will be easier to get groups levelling up as paladin+cleric, since you basically have that group with your own toons. However, if your tank isnt geared the exp from that group will suck. Getting a group as a cleric isnt that difficult and if you get hold of a geared tank leveling up will be way faster.


Always wonder how http://shardsofdalaya.com/fomelo/fomelo.php?char=Subb got a 1.2m with his horrible cripple gear farming paladin. If you want to be a paladin roll a paladin, any guild that boxes a paladin over gearing a new unboxed one is a horrible piece of shit not worth its salt. Not rolling a class because you think its going to take exceptionally more effort or is overpopulated is dumb.
 
Farming that cash on the not so geared ranger+cleric though = way easier. Basically even if you want that paladin in the long run, it will be faster to get him to where you need him if you get that ranger up to 65 first, to farm cash for him.

I agree with this.
 
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