Botting and Boxing...?

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Ciaran

Dalayan Adventurer
Okay... I'm not even sure if this is the right forum but can someone explain the point to botting and two boxing? I can under the boxing somewhat, it just seems confusing but why do people bot? I've heard a lot of mention of people botting chanters. My best class is enchanter and I spent years on live perfecting my skill at using the class, knowing what was best to charm, what was most neccesarry to mezzie when 5 different things agroed my group and were going to town on the poor tank. I suppose my question is why do you bot a character when you can just get a REAL person to play that character, is the code better than a real person could realistically play? It just seems to me like part of the point of the game is socializing with people you don't know, roleplaying your character, and getting to know other peoples characters and it seems to me like botting and two boxing takes away from this as people grind their way to the top levels as quickly as possible, ignoring all the fun content that comes somewhere between trying not to get yourself killed while soloing at level 1 and trying not to get yourself and all the rest of your group killed while on a raid at level 65. Anyway, was just curious about this and whether or not a bot (specifically a chanter bot) is innately superior to an actual player because if it is I might have to learn a new class.
 
I think people bot because of the lack of certain classes at the high end of the game, like Rogues and enchanters etc. I don't think a bot is superior to someone that devotes there time to a class, but if a Raid needs a certain number of a certain class then the bots and two boxers come out.
I say be whatever class you want, and maybe one day this server won't need to Bot and 2 Box, but until that day comes I need to rezz myself with my cleric bot.
 
Boxed characters are not just a "last resort" on raids. Easily over half of the people on an average PR raid are 2-boxing.
 
I find it a lot easier and i can do alot harder things if I duo instead of just solo.

I used to 4box on live np. Think my best was twisting three songs while playing 2 clerics in ch chain and a necro feeding mana. I didnt enjoy that to much, always drained me. To get the best out of any class i play i cant dbl box at all. With bard thats a given but even w/ the paladin and shm here If im not solely on them i feel as if im not playing them my best.
 
Okay, so I don't need to panic that the class that kept me playing EQ can be done better by a player made code then? That's a relief.
 
your talking about using something like macroquest?

Dont believe anyone uses it here, if they do and someone finds out they wont be for long.
 
Personally when I was playing on the Live server I would bot my second account as an Enchanter as my main was a Beastlord and could use certain abilities of the enchanter and there wasn't always one available to group with.

I would also bot some of my guildmates secondary accounts Cleric Shammie etc to assist in my day to day when people just didn't wanna sit and farm in say Veksar or PoM. They gained EXP and I had a fun time. having the practice doing it for myself as a group in harder places like BoT mini's and such was great for raid days when bodies were lower.

That said I always gave up a group position for a real body when guildmates were looking for groups and didn't mind the location I had choosen to take the "Z Team".
 
So would most people here give up the spot for a botted chanter for a real one then? I know it isn't one of the most common classes (or wasn't in EQlive once they got to the point that they were expected to be able to do -real- crowd control) so I can understand botting them when you don't have one at your disposal. My main worry was that people saw them as superior to actual players on as an enchanter. The mid/high game for chanters if it fits my recollection was mostly involved with grouping or extremely high risk semi low reward soloing.
 
I think the term 'bot' here isn't really a bot that is automated but one person playing multiple chars. When I did that on live, I had my main char, SK and a second char, shammy. If I was grouped with someone who played a shammy as main, I was more than happy to drop my shammy and let a main handle shammy duties.

In general, I don't think you have anything to worry about, someone playing a single character can do a better job than someone botting one.
 
I also played an Enchanter on live, for several years..

in the time i played, i never met a person that coupld play a botted chanter as well as an active one.. simply because the enchanters job is a continuas changeing dance.. never the same thing, you can't assist a char to pick your targets..

now, i have seen some people play an active chanter, and bot another class out, but mainly active on the chanter.. /shrug
 
My friends used to 2 box enchanters, both of them got to the point during velious they could mez 15 mob trains without using AE mez. Different game then than it is now, trash mobs didn't hit for 1200 =P. I'll try to dig up a screenshot of a train. Boxing isn't always bad.
 
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