Bards beeing able to mezz theirselves again... why in the world has THAT been "fixed"

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stickupkid

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Heya

I just came back from an extended SoD break and played a bit today then right after the dig on a tmap I accidently mezzed myself (had wrong target).. and got beaten to death because that mezz wouldnt break.

I was like WTFFFFF... we used to be "protected" against our own mezz before and it was fine that way - I heard zones were crashing in the past so this was the workaround for that... but now we are able to mezz ourselves again without crashing the zone... I just dont understand why this had to be changed?

And why do the mobs do not break that mezz? Ducking also didnt work because well, when youre mezzed you cannot do anything but talking.

On the other hand there are numerous bard issues like not proccing while we cast a song, our dots not stacking with other bards, singing mastery beeing useless.. etc etc.. (see the bard related thread here or in classes&gear forum.. not sure where)

Please change this back or be so kind to explain why this had to be "fixed" (instead of the one of the real issues).

I dont see a reason at all - it worked perfect while we were immune to our own mezzes.

Please enlighten me.

P.S.: I had a horrible death because of this and I'm quite mad right now. Incase I sound like beeing mad thats because of that lol..
 
I don't play a bard but I am pretty sure you still tick songs when you mez yourself as well as losing aggro on the mob thats beating you. There might you know be a situation where its more beneficial for you to mez yourself and not do shit then to die. If I'm wrong on that welp.


I don't really see the problem outside that you cant undo it without /q.

There is no prevention for wizards nuking themselves or paladins stunning themselves, you did something dumb you paid for it. Get over it.

That said being unable to endsong it or whatever when the mob is beating you is pretty terribles
 
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if /cmd endsong doesn't work, you could always just duck after you get hit. I wouldn't know because im not bad enough to ever have mezzed myself on my bard.
 
it doesnt make us lose aggro, nor do the mobs beating on us unmezz.

/cm endsong i forgot about that might work.. but still doesnt change the fact that its pretty stupid the way it is right now

it still cancels all ticking songs.. except the mezz itself.. please explain to me how this makes sense.. or that mobs beating on us does not break it.

If it would work like the enchanter mezz, makin us lose aggro or something (i think i heard n saw chanters using that method) i wouldnt complain..

but i stood there beeing permamezzed and beeing beaten to death by wussie mobs I'd normally kill without any problem.

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The point is not about me dying there off course.. but that in general its bad as it is right now.. and it used to be fine but it was "fixed" in a bad way.. and there are numerous other REAL issues with the bards on the other hand..
It feels like its a (bad) joke.
 
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You always could mez yourself, so don't. The problem that keeps seeping back in is the ability to crash zones.
 
not long ago we were "protected" against our mezzes iirc.. i mean like if you try to cast stuff on things you are not supposed to cast on.

Your target is protected ..

Its fine that we can mezz ourselfes.. and while dropping aggro certainly would be nice its not intended i can understand.... but that the mezz keeps ticking is what is weird.. and that the mobs beating on us do not break that mezz.
 
Zaela said:
This. I'm no bard, but I don't remember them ever being made immune to their own mezzes, just the zone crashing effect of mezz looping being fixed. Must be a year or so ago, now.
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It's been quite awhile since it was first fixed, but it kept finding it's way back in the game at odd times. Last time I recall it seeping back was when I raided regularly and adnon still played. The ensuing result a bet started a chain reaction that not only crashed athica, but the whole server and nobody was online to reboot it. Liam told everyone to go to bed
Likewise I never remember an immunity to our own mezzes.

I recall a post by a staff member, back during the first fix, in reply that the mez a bard does to himself being permanent being along the lines of "this is your curse for crashing zones, don't mez youself"
 
i remember trying it out not too long ago.. and i dont play as long as you did (when I started you were not actively raiding anymore) .. and it did not work

I only heard of the crashing problem but never experienced it myself.. and I did try it out in the past. I think i got the protection message or it simply did not do anything. Thats why i was like WTFFFFFFFFF when it then happened today
 
From some irc logs
<iae> should i test if bard mez crashes the server?
<Volkov> lawl
<Kyeld> It crashes the zone
<iae> still?
<Kyeld> if you self-cast
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this was sometime before Wed Jul 25 00:00:00 2007
 
As a bard i've never really mezzed myself so I thought i'd go try it out and see what happened.

First attempt, standard mezz on myself no mobs on me:
The mez kept repulsing before the mez faded making it impossible to duck inbetween casts. /cm endsong worked in that it made the mez (icon atleast) fade eventually and stopped the repulsing but I was still rendered unable to move (the character nor the mouse icon) as if still mezzed for a few minnutes after the icon dropped untill I just closed out the window.

Second attempt, same as before but with a mob to test 'breakability':
Took off some damage reduct gear I have and found a nice LB to test it on. Engaged and the mob was able to break the mez with a hit made directly after it the mez landed. I thought i'd retry it tho and this time the mob wasnt able to get a hit off till the song had pulsed a couple times on me. For whatever reason he was not able to break it the send time after it had repulsed. Eventually after a while of the mob attacking me the mez icon faded but I was stuck in the same position as the first attempt (unable to move as if still mezzed yet with no icon. I let my character stay in this state for about 10 min while I wrote this post and it hasnt shown any signs of stopping. I notice that when I hold the alt key the spell labels will still flash (incase anyone was thinking the game jsut froze or w/e).

In conclusion I would just try and avoid mezzing yourself. Theres not many reasons for a bard to target onesself, let alone do it mid combat so it hopefully shouldnt happen to often and if you manage to mez yourself again I suggest closing out game and swiftly logging back in so that your character isnt left in game LD for too long.
 
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