Bards and thier dots

[Jiynx]

the bard relic: Fiery Warcry of Tarhyl

per the wiki http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Spell:_Relic:_Fiery_Warcry_of_Tarhyl

this seems like it should be changed so bards get the benefit on the dots also, this will not make them op

it does not matter that the bard dots are mana free, give them the benefit of thier songs imo

 

[Rorne]

this seems like it should be changed so bards get the benefit on the dots also, this will not make them op

You need to make a more compelling argument than this. Not that I think you can in this case since bards still benefit from the overhaste portion and spell focuses do not benefit bard songs.

 

[Salarus]

Sure, give them the benefit. But nerf all their dots/nukes to the tune of say, 15% less damage?

 

[Orcus]

Bards are OP as they sit now, please don't mess with them anymore!! Having the songs effect 17 other people to a extreme amount is awesome.

With 2.22 Codexs done with a 3.1 perc mod I do 915 (1830 crit) magic damage every tick for 3 ticks with a -50mr adjust on the dot. I have also completed my MR Glyph, I don't recall if it even effects our dots but if it does, that just makes it worse (better).

With my normal gear, 1.7 perc mod (2.22codex) the dot does 566. Add in your DPS with melee and maybe one other dot, that's nuts. Increasing this anymore would be OP in every sense. And it increases every day I play due to codexs for however long they last me.

All this info is pointless but I just wanted to say you should really do more testing/play time and thinking before making posts like these... not just you but everyone else as well.

 

[Orcus]

Sure, give them the benefit. But nerf all their dots/nukes to the tune of say, 15% less damage?

This is why you need to keep to yourself and not mess with what's in place. People like this (Zatik) ruin it for everyone else. If you have a logical and great idea, think it through, talk to people and do some testing. Bring it to a Gm or Dev or whoever handles these things 1 on 1 and go from there.

 

[Salarus]

This is why you need to keep to yourself and not mess with what's in place. People like this (Zatik) ruin it for everyone else. If you have a logical and great idea, think it through, talk to people and do some testing. Bring it to a Gm or Dev or whoever handles these things 1 on 1 and go from there.

Oh you're right, I was a little bit harsh with my response.


However...

I really recomend making a serires of arguments as to why you think it should be changed, probably citing damage output of bards in contrast with other classes.

To expand on what I was hinting at with my argument and phrasing in a horribly assholeish way - If bard dps as it stands is where devs intend it to be (this may or may not be true) then adding 15% more would imbalance them. Bards, as Nylab said, do increible amounts of things and are probably the most overpowered class in this game. While much has been done to work around this, if you really think you have a strong reason for empowering them, I highly recomend stating more than 2 lines with one conclusion with no presmis attached, and one, what could be, an attempted straw man - except that it is a premis but has no conclusion.