bard kiting instrument efficiency question

what is better to have the instrument on?

  • DD song (BBB)

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terrordemon

Dalayan Beginner
what do you guys think is the most efficient way to kite (i.e. what type of instrument is better)? i can either have my aoe spell do double damage and do double to the 6 mobs im kiting, or have my DD song do double damage, killing my single target much faster

or maybe theres a way to use both? i havent played around with constantly changing instrument mid kite but maybe its possible?

EDIT: this is PRE-DOT. i dont have any real dot's yet, just the aoepb and dd
 
my dd's arent even percussion... i'm low level. maybe once i get higher they will be? but chords of dissonance is stringed and DDD is brass...

is there something i dont know about percussion?

so i dont even have dot's yet, but once i get them i'm sure i'll use them. but what about PRE-dot?
 
so i just looked ahead at my songs and zomg amazing. now i just need to put in like 3+ days of playtime! yaaaaaaaaaaay!!!.... -_-

is group kiting the fastest way to level as a low level bard? wbl is where i've been, anyone got any better suggestions?
 
Twist your AoEPB and DD, you'll do great damage. As for which type of song to amplify, try your DD.
 
Soloing should only be done while LFG. Grouping is the way to go on this server. It is nice to get some xp while waiting, however. They nerfed "swarm" kiting, so it is just easier to twist your DoTs once you get them.

Bards are pretty inefficient soloers pre 40s.
 
Spiritplx said:
Bards are pretty inefficient soloers pre 40s.

30 is when dot kiting is more effective.
How much effective I can not tell exactly, but If a lvl 30 bard wants to throw out some numbers w/ what instrument they are using, it would be cool.
 
iaeolan said:
30 is when dot kiting is more effective.
How much effective I can not tell exactly, but If a lvl 30 bard wants to throw out some numbers w/ what instrument they are using, it would be cool.

40s was a reference to level 42 when we get our first chant. This is when I started soloing a bit better as these chants are a vast improvement. Don't get me wrong, I soloed in my 30s as well, but once I hit 42 it was golden.

I would like to change my quote to...

"Bards are A LOT more efficient soloers at level 42+".
 
Spiritplx said:
40s was a reference to level 42 when we get our first chant. This is when I started soloing a bit better as these chants are a vast improvement. Don't get me wrong, I soloed in my 30s as well, but once I hit 42 it was golden.

I would like to change my quote to...

"Bards are A LOT more efficient soloers at level 42+".

First chant is level 30
 
Nope, it was pretty terrible for its level. My reality is solely based on if something is powerful or not. That is why I don't understand when people talk about non-American countries. :(
 
Im soloing pretty well with my 42 Bard now using Selos Constant Chain, Tuyen's Chant of Flame/Disease.
 
In the case that this may help new or aspiring bards...

Bards are TERRIFIC soloers pre-42 with dun dun dun... AE Kiting!. You can realistically start AE kiting at level 2 with CoD and strafe running. It is ideal when AE kiting to kill mobs that drop xp hand-ins because this will drastically boost your xp rate. You can only kite 6 mobs at the time but once you get experience kiting you will rip through these mobs quickly. Important level thresholds include level 5 when selos replaces a lot of yoru strafe running, level 8 when the stringed instrument skill doubles your CoD generally from 4/tick to 8/tick, and level 18 when you learn the brass instrument skill and can start twisting DDD with your CoD.

Very important notes to make. The larger a mob is, generally the more attack range it has. This is why giant spiders are difficult, and giants are next to impossible to ae kite. Also your CoD has a smaller pbaoe area than your DDD. So if you have slaughtered a zone to the point that only a million large spiders are up, you could handle them easily with only DDD although this would take much longer.

Only kite pure melee mobs. Caster mobs will hurt you with their dds and dots, root you so your kite goes wild on you, and generally mess up your tight mob formation when they stop to cast. Also be aware that where there are shaman mob types (seers or oracles for example), you will usually find pure melee near them that are sow'd which also messes with your kite.

Finally, try to kite mobs that run the same speed. This will make things much much easier on you for kiting.

My leveling suggestions. You may find better though, who knows.

Level 1 : Stick to even cons or blue and melee everything until 1) you are at least level two and 2) you have enough money for your level two song.

Level 2 - 5 : Try kiting beetles in either North Newport or Centaur Hills. Keep [Beetle Pincer] s for a NNP xp hand in. You can supplement your kites with gnoll pups if necessary.

Level 5 : At this point get the quest from Mandy. Completing this quest will give you a mastercrafted drum, lute, and horn. Use the SODWiki and start any other Newport quests you can.

Level 5 - 9 : Kite gnolls outside of Blackburrow in Centaur Hills (nice hand-in xp) or the surrounding wolves when the gnolls are down

Level 9 - 14 : Kite in Western Badlands. There is a bandit camp of 6 (bandit heads for NNP or SNP(night) turn-in), a gnoll camp of 6 (keep 2 gnoll balm, destroy fangs), and a gnoll camp of 3, as well as surrounding lions and spiders if that isn't enough. These can all be found in the southeastern point of the zone. You can also hit the other bandit camp in the mountains by the merchants if you want.

14 - 22 : Kite in Northern Badlands. Your main targets are lion cubs (paws), lions (lion skins), and spiders (tarsus) for xp hand-ins. Supplement kites with decaying corpses or bandits to shorten the time it takes to get 6 mobs aggro. You can throw in young griffons after 17 or so but they make the kite longer, however they have nice cash drops.

23 - 27 : Liodreths in Southern Badlands (heads and paws for xp hand-in) and whatever still gives you xp in Northern Badlands. Young griffons are still nice kites but stay away from "griffons" because those kites take so long.

27 - 31 : Eastern Badlands beetles, plaguewind gnolls (furs for xp hand-in), and lions. [Bitter Leaf] also drops off random mobs for xp hand-in but they are lore so you can only have one to hand in at a time.

32 - 36 : This is where I am now. Spiders and Panthers are my targets so far and they are very easy to deal with. Spiders have faction hand-ins.

I'm hoping to get a Kings Pass kite route set up very soon so I can actually get xp while pharming my mask (although the confined spaces will make those kites very interesting).

Basically you want to round up 6 mobs using selos and your drum and then get them in a single tight group. Giant spider type mobs seem to have a greater reach so they will make your kites more difficult if you have them compromising 1 or more of the 6. Once you have aggro'd your 6 mobs you need to get them into a tight mass by running around them a few times. Next, switch to your lute and start your kite. This is extremely hard to explain in text, but basically you run in oval formations around your mobs starting the song when you enter one end of an oval and letting it hit as you exit. Otherwise, you can strafe in one direction so you are running sideways away from the mobs, then you strafe run forward to form an 80 degree angle. Something like ( /_____ [mobs] ). Try to have restoration and selos on at all time as your beneficial songs. If you get hit, and you will at first, you can heal up by kiting your mobs at a far distance with resto playing.

Due to a request, I made a really quick and dirty YouTube video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skMIWdC-CuE . This was put together in a rush, but other than getting my a$$ handed to me on the first run by, you can see decent kiting from the 5th second to 33rd second. 33rd second to the end of the movie is basically me missing CoD over and over which happens to the best of us.

In conclusion, AE kiting still rocks in its diminished form and probably is the equivalent of a good steady group, if not better, due to xp handins. This rant has made me late for History Class, gotta love free college electives...
 
Thanks for the feedback. My 28 Bard is Conky. I have a 39 cleric named Zurian and a 39 warrior named Hogy that I've temporarily abandoned due to a lack of groups at that level. I've been part of the SoD community less than 2 weeks hence the low levels :haw:

What I forgot to mention is that if you're going to solo as a bard pre 40 make sure you upgrade your instruments as quickly as possible. You can run around half naked and still do well if you have decent instruments. The best way to do this is to complete your bard quests as soon as possible. You can look this up on the SoD Wiki.

I suggest starting all the bard quests except the rogue faction quest, as well as the newport ring quest and the antique armor quest trigger as earlier as possible. You could finish Mandy's first task at level 5 if you wanted.

While leveling, aside from the turn-in xp items, be sure to keep 2 gnoll balms from the rotting gnolls, 2 silks from any spiders, and 4 cat guts from the lions you kill.
 
Eh after my recent thread on the level 30 dot , im now 31 (Woop soloing 1 griff+ 4 youngins at once for me , being a huge accomplishment) with only 30 chant and 18 discord.

Took me a while to get used to getting close enough for discord to pulse on them but eventually i got much better at it. I also finally got a tambourine which brought the damage from curtailing to 22 (Not good , but not bad either + 12/13 damage from the other pulse on all of them) took me a good 15-20 mins though to whipe em all and I had to do multiple circle loops to recover hp.

:dance: bard rules , most exciting class for me period.

I also watched conky get 3.9 levels in the time that i got one.

sob :psyduck:

He claims using a brass/string + the level 2 coords and 18 disso to be more effective , but i cant get it to hit them enough to be good at it.

I even got a hill giant to around 30% (Curtail+Braggart spam) , ran out of mana and said it wasnt worth it.

Also i found it odd that it takes the same time to kill a red griffon and a white lion in ebadlands :( (Using the same method) and getting like 3000 less exp for the lion.
 
CoD has a smaller effective range than DDD which makes it harder to use on your kite without getting hit.
 
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