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Bard AE's
- Thread starter Eninem411
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If you are talking about the Blue Gem damage songs (also known as point blank spells), they are supposed to be short range. They can't be upped due to EQlive history. When Luclin came in, the Extended Notes Class AA used to affect bard AEs that had blue gems. a 50% increase in range allowed them to kite indeterminable amounts of mobs with ease.
The ranges are balanced now; fiddling with them would cause too many issues to arise.
The ranges are balanced now; fiddling with them would cause too many issues to arise.
BitHead0023
Dalayan Beginner
Bard PBAOE songs aren't intended for easy kiting. It can be done, by running a loop just outside a mob's melee range, but like most of a bard's fancier tricks, it requires a lot of practice (and a good stable connection, but anyway).
Aside from that, they still work nicely for some extra damage in melee, provided you're careful about wandering mobs (using third-person view, etc). In this situation, the small range is a blessing. For a real kick, try twisting Chords of Dissonance, Hymn of Restoration, and Denon`s Disruptive Discord with a lute, while switching briefly to a horn before DDD hits. At level 18 or so, that combo can actually be more effective than a bard's melee, barring extremely nice weapons. Note that this is mainly a solo thing... in a group, a bard usually has better things to be doing.
Aside from that, they still work nicely for some extra damage in melee, provided you're careful about wandering mobs (using third-person view, etc). In this situation, the small range is a blessing. For a real kick, try twisting Chords of Dissonance, Hymn of Restoration, and Denon`s Disruptive Discord with a lute, while switching briefly to a horn before DDD hits. At level 18 or so, that combo can actually be more effective than a bard's melee, barring extremely nice weapons. Note that this is mainly a solo thing... in a group, a bard usually has better things to be doing.
BitHead0023 said:It can be done, by running a loop just outside a mob's melee range
And there's the rub. Using this standard tactic on WR will get you beat up more than half the time on WR. (Other than low level bards, 'beat up' means hurt real bad if the bard can get selo's off, dead if not =)
Anyways, on WR the different song modifiers, mobs speeds, mob hit boxes and such make it a bit harder than on live to AE kite with bards. (Which is fine, btw. I'd like to see it fixed someday for novelty's sake, but only if you could somehow nerf the xp from this kind of kiting and not nerf the fun, heh)
Mind you, I've successfully done this AE kiting thing, even on WR. But you have to find the right combo of mob levels, zone geometry (no cliffs...don't ask a bard how high he can fly off a cliff), mob run speed, etc. And for many levels, there's just not the proper setup available of these factors to even allow bard AE kiting.
If you are bored and level 30ish, I've had some fun AE kiting wolves in Frosthort (i.e. Iceclad), but again, you'll ruin your day a good number of times (adds, lag, run off a cliff with selo's at mach IV, cougar roams by (they run fast), etc.)
Enjoy.
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Foma - 45 Bard