Aegis of Magic overwrites Spikecoat

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Boramur

Dalayan Beginner
As the title says.

Why does Aegis of magic spell overwrite the clicky from the Mantle of the Forset (spikecoat) ???

Sure hope this is just a bug.

If its not a bug, can this please be looked at.

Thanks.

Kindar
 
Without even bothering to look at the two spells, im gonna say its likely due to the fact that theyre both +ac self buffs, and aegis is the stronger of the two, which, yes, would overwrite.
 
Is it possible to change it so it doesn't overwrtite it?

If not, then how about making it targetable so I can at least cast it on my pet?

Most self buff clickies I find are useless to a Necro, I would pref to have them cast on my pet. as my pet tanks better then I do....LOL

Kindar
 
Self buff clickies are usually for fun/flavor. I don't see it being changed to a targetable clicky just out of convenience, and/or to make a pet tank better.
 
Boramur said:
Is it possible to change it so it doesn't overwrtite it?
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Spikecoat is the druid version of the int caster AoM. Making them stack would not make sense (it would be like making WoN stack with Focus). As both spells are self-only, I don't see either one being made targetable.
 
GuiardoTuneweaver said:
Spikecoat is the druid version of the int caster AoM. Making them stack would not make sense (it would be like making WoN stack with Focus). As both spells are self-only, I don't see either one being made targetable.
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K, I see your point.

JayelleNephilim

Not sure I see your point. "just out of convenience, and/or to make a pet tank better"

Um, we use equipment/spells to make us and or our pets better. So yes having it cast on my pet would help, I admit not alot, but thats beside the point. I solo most of the time, and only have what ever buffs/spells I have. So having the ability to make my pet stronger/faster/tougher, the better!

Again its not out of convenience, its out of making my pet or me better.

Kindar
 
Boramur said:
Most self buff clickies I find are useless to a Necro, I would pref to have them cast on my pet. as my pet tanks better then I do....LOL
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I was commenting in regards to this specifically (perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by "self buff clickes"). What I meant was, I don't agree with the idea of changing self only clickies to targetable just so you can cast it on your pet to beef it up and make it tank better. I do, however, agree that our own spell line is there to make us or our pets better.
 
Not trying to drag this out, or cause heart ache. I'm just trying to understand this from the admin side,

" I don't agree with the idea of changing self only clickies to targetable just so you can cast it on your pet to beef it up and make it tank better"

Why don't you agree?

its not like I could go kill raid mobs solo with a clicky.

Kindar
 
Boramur said:
Not trying to drag this out, or cause heart ache. I'm just trying to understand this from the admin side,

" I don't agree with the idea of changing self only clickies to targetable just so you can cast it on your pet to beef it up and make it tank better"

Why don't you agree?

its not like I could go kill raid mobs solo with a clicky.

Kindar
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If you were able to cast that on pets it'd be quite overpowered. IIRC it is a HP + AC + DS Buff - I'd kill people to have it for Luas, pretty sure that's why it isn't going to happen.
 
Boramur said:
Why don't you agree?
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With self-only buffs, the class that actually gets that spell can't cast it on their pet. Making it so that another class could cast it on their pet with a clicky would be unfair, as well as unbalancing (or the spell wouldn't have been self-only in the first place, or there would be a pet-only version of the buff such as the haste, aggro, and death save pet-only spells).
 
Manluas, GuiardoTuneweaver

The thing is I can go hunt for a druid and a cleric or shaman to buff my pet, Then my pets is pretty cool. The point is if no druid or cleric around, then a clicky is pretty handy.

So No I don't agree that it would be over powering. Player buffs are way better then any clicky

Kindar
 
If you want to DS your pet, buy potions. If you want to ac/hp buff your pet, buy potions. Or, as you already stated, hunt down a druid or whatever to buff your pet. You have alternatives, so suggesting that this item be changed to suit you is out of line with where we want it balanced.

As stated before, "this should be changed because I want it" will never get things changed.

The clicky isnt meant to be targettable, and thus far, the only argument you have put forth as to why it should is "it wouldnt be overpowering".

No.
 
Thanks Ikaa/Osimi

I didn't know I could use potions to buff my pet, very cool.

As for the "As stated before, "this should be changed because I want it" will never get things changed" and "so suggesting that this item be changed to suit you is out of line with where we want it balanced"

I was asking if it COULD be changed, and if not, a reasonable explanation. Nothing more, nothing less. I wanted the admin to say the reason as to why, and you did by saying " with were we want it balanced". I still think it is not unbalancing, but that is just my opinion. Also Any changes that may have been made, would not have just been for me, but all who use clickies.

Thank you all for your replies

Kindar
 
Boramur said:
I didn't know I could use potions to buff my pet, very cool.
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I dont play a pet class, so correct me if im wrong: but I always believed potions were targettable.. or remember them being so. Again i dont have the spell right in front of me to verify. I could be mistaken on that..
 
Ikaa/Osimi said:
I dont play a pet class, so correct me if im wrong: but I always believed potions were targettable.. or remember them being so. Again i dont have the spell right in front of me to verify. I could be mistaken on that..
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I can't remember ever having tried with many potions, but I do not think they are targetable. At the very least body by rekaj and gate potions aren't targetable.

edit: and lorewise it doesn't really make sense for you to take a nip of your potion to buff someone else
 
Got curious and went back and checked myself.. if they were targettable at one point (because I distinctly recalled wasting 3 shots of essence of wolf before i realized i had someone else targetted) they aren't now.

So it looks like its time to level a druid bot.
 
So want to make potions targetable??????









Kidding................. ;)

I can't seem to DC, everytime I bring my other char in the same zone, my comp reboots. I think its my video card that frecks out. Oh well.

Thanks for checking it out.

Kindar
 
Boramur said:
The thing is I can go hunt for a druid and a cleric or shaman to buff my pet, Then my pets is pretty cool. The point is if no druid or cleric around, then a clicky is pretty handy.
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You can hunt as long as you want and you will never find a druid that can cast spikecoat on your pet, since it's a self-only buff. Other buffs that are not self-only can be made targetable so they can cast on others/pets, and there are at least a few of these items out there that are indeed targetable (clicky illusion rings are an example, although they don't provide much in the way off buffs).

As for potions, no they're not targetable. To paraphrase one of my favorite quotes from these forums (from iaeolan), there's no potion spitting. =P
 
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