I disagree with the Class 2's being no drop on Crumbling maps. Let's face it, there's so many resist 1 & 3's, stat tomes, etc., that I have turned in enough to get my rouge TWO backstab augs (5 tomes each), and I have more to turn in. So you have a choice, get a new charm, or buy trash tomes to turn in, or do tomes that might not be your "class" tomes. There's no competition on maps, like there is for the 6 man mobs, just getting a big enough force to do it. And no, you don't need bloody T10 to do them, that's the Wiki tier of MAP tiers, we were doing them at T7-8ish, you just have to have the *right* setup. If you have plenty of tanks & heals, they're easily doable by T7-8 raid, with even some lowers along. If you try to do the "usual setup" of two tanks, then yeah, I can see why you'd think they are harder than they really are.
The issue with making them no drop is that a lot of the people that can do them have already bought or gotten their Class 2's, even at Tier 7-8. Will you have evil people running raids as PURaids (PuG is still a dog to me) and claiming tomes? Yeah. Just don't go to those. If someone fair is running, then cash/droppables claimed, and tomes would be IF YOU CAN USE, then /ran on it. Not like half the raids don't already have stuff claimed.
If you make them no drop, then even if one person from one class needs one class tome, the one they already have done will rot. Usually only one of some class on *any* raid. Considering the force needed to do these, I can't see them being PuRaided often, most guilds will run internally because guess what! They drop in.. raid zones. Yes, they can be fished. Yes, they can drop from other mobs that don't require a raid. But A. I spent HOURS fishing just to try to see how long it took (over 10 bags of bait, not a single map) and not a viable option to just fish them (and they're still no drop when fished, I *have* confirmed that someone else fished one). B. The mobs they drop from = no one sane would kill for weeks for a chance at a tome 2 that they may or may not be able to use.
Nowhere was it proposed that they *only* drop Class 2 tomes. When I originally posted about adding them, it would have been an option. Might get some random generic class 1, might get none, might actually get a class 2. Think of it like the ED Vah sword drop. It *might* happen, and the off chance that it *might* is why they are in demand. Adding the code that puts ancients, relics on VD & ED maps would be the same kind of thing. Can get none, can get one crappy one, can get a general 2, can get class 1, can get a class 2. So not, not just class 2's on the loot table.
Even if the gear isn't tweaked, even the shot at tomes would be a good addition. If it's a crappy tome no one needs, then either the raidleader just got some charm money, or the guildbank just got some charm money. Or there could be no tome, which if ED map sales are any indication, "Haven't gotten one in X maps, the next one *has* to have one!" and will up the interest in actually doing them. It's not like the fished maps that you can randomly buy, the maps themselves are no drop, so if you are like me & hate digging harder maps because you always end up dying, then you won't be farming them for your class time anyway.
